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re: this criticism of chavis is absolutely absurd (long)
Posted on 10/28/13 at 12:26 pm to Geauxgurt
Posted on 10/28/13 at 12:26 pm to Geauxgurt
Chavis is one hell of a coach when he has 4 or more NFL propects playing for him. But he hasnt changed since Tenn. So lets get him 5-6 All Americans on the team each yr and its all good from there.
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 12:36 pm to bencoleman
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I still can't believe how fast everyone turned on Chavis.
I don't think everyone is down on Chavis....but I definitely think we do not blitz enough to knock a QB out of his comfort zone. Lets dial it up a little more.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 12:40 pm to el duderino III
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uh, so exactly what players should chavis be scheming around? The secondary is the weakest unit, and the dline cant get pressure, so whats the game plan against a quality passing team there coach? send six guys on every other down, leaving every corner manned up and one or no safeties deep? Pretty solid. You should write chavis a strongly worded letter. the reality is, when you have weaknesses in your dline, linebacking core, and expecially your secondary, your options schematically are severely limited. Arguing, well, uh, he should just adjust to what he's got and put a top ten defense on the field is completely asinine if you completely ignore what he's actually got talent wise. Also, I cant wait to bump this thread in a year or two. so many sig quotes to be had...
I agree with whats said, my problem is that we knew we were going to lose at least 5 of those guys, where was the recruiting?
some things can be planned out a bit better for 6.5 million dollars between the big 3..
If its me, I'm recruiting Danielle Hunters replacement now, cause he is only going to be here for 3 years...You always want to try and recruit a guy thats better than the one you had.
And now you have a war for the cream of the crop instate kids (Should NEVER Happen) We have lost two tremendous players the last two years and it has hurt us bad...Losing Cameron Robinson will hurt bad. We lose the Big SA RB to Bama, its over bro, and dont tell me there are ones better out there, you put a steel curtain around LA and you win...(Hmm... Brings to mind someone else doing that)
Posted on 10/28/13 at 12:45 pm to el duderino III
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LSU defense opponent third down conversion %,
rank nationally: (out of 120 teams)
2012 - 12th
2011 - 19th
2010 - 16th
With the talent we had I don't see this as something positive for Chief.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 12:47 pm to bencoleman
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I still can't believe how fast everyone turned on Chavis.
Chavis a good DC, but this is refreshing to see that he's not sacrosanct.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 12:49 pm to jonboy
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The defense has done nothing
But regress since 2011. If your players get beat because of sub par talent that's one thing. To see them lose because they can't tackle, can't understand where to line up, play the wrong coverages and show ZERO improvement over the course of the season is on Chavis.
This is legitimate criticism. And FTR, we are no longer a young D. If Chavis is as competent as the OP claims then even with the talent we have, he should be able to figure out way to get some stops, TOs, etc vs Bama and A&M.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 12:54 pm to el duderino III
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The secondary is the weakest unit
I don't see how anyone could say this. IMO, they are our strongest unit, specifically the corners.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 12:56 pm to el duderino III
da;dr
dont agree didnt read
dont agree didnt read
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:34 pm to el duderino III
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this criticism of chavis is absolutely absurd (long)
Unfortunately, your self-righteous screed disregards the fact that the defense's woes started BEFORE the mass exodus of the underclassmen. We were terrible in the two minute defense against Bama in 2012. We were atrocious against Ole Miss and Arkansas in 2012. And we were mortifyingly bad against Clemson, especially in the second half. Hence, all of the defensive struggles cannot be attributed to early NFL declarations. Rather, scheme and technique appear to be implicated. Those are coaching issues.
I'm not advocating that we fire Chavis, but he is clearly deserving of some criticism.
Miles and staff should also be criticized for the recruiting misses (esp. in 2012: Levall, Collins, etc.) that contributed to the current talent shortfall and exacerbated the NLF departures.
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:41 pm to el duderino III
When you lose juniors to the NFL, why not have new juniors to take their place?
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:11 pm to Chicken
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When you lose juniors to the NFL, why not have new juniors to take their place?
That's the key. We have to start taking a look whether we whiffed on Mickey, Thomas, and our plethora of linebackers. If DJ Welter is the best you have after all the linebackers we took, then you have to say we didn't evaluate/develop properly.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:13 pm to Chicken
Correct, getting players and coaching them up is on the coaches. They are not doing a good enough job to keep us a national title contenders.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:19 pm to el duderino III
quote:Agree. (It was long)
this criticism of chavis is absolutely absurd (long)
But I do agree that the defense has always been the least of our problems. And this year it has been getting better each game while the offense regresses.
But what do you expect from a fanbase that would criticize one of the best defenses in the country in 2010. Some of these idiots were critical of the defense in the BCS on 1/9.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:22 pm to el duderino III
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beckwith handle that responsibility.
Beckwiths future is at de. Its obvious that's where the coaches want him. And I can't argue, they've made pretty good decisions on what position players should play.
Well except for trindon. Should have been playing de from day one.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:27 pm to DarkKingArthur
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That's the key. We have to start taking a look whether we whiffed on Mickey, Thomas, and our plethora of linebackers. If DJ Welter is the best you have after all the linebackers we took, then you have to say we didn't evaluate/develop properly.
Dt depth was going to bite us. We've had someone leave early every year since 2010.
I disagree about lb. Sheppard and minter were seen as too small to play mike. Multiple people said wed have trouble against power run teams because bama has 270lb backers while ours struggled to get to 230.
Both shep and minter exceeded expectations set for them when they took over at mike. That's the problem. The 3 ga boys were really good. Better than fans wanted to give credit for. Riley, shep and minter were just beasts.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:44 pm to el duderino III
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explaining how chavis is doing the best with what he can this season, and is still fielding a top 25 defense.
Top 25 is good enough? With the talent we bring in? No sense in wasting good words on you, man.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 1:03 pm to SnowTigrrr
Moron.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 1:06 pm to el duderino III
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el duderino III
Posted on 10/29/13 at 1:28 pm to Camp Randall
quote:All the bitching, pissing and moaning is more tolersble than all you self righteous control freaks that complain about the complainers.
You nailed it here. So much bitching, pissing, and moaning it's unbelievable.
If you don't like all the BPM, then don't come on here. It's a GD message board. All the opinions contained within may not be the same as your own personal ones, so please cease and desist with trying to control thoughts and opinions that aren't the same as yours.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 1:29 pm to el duderino III
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and your only other cover corner with experience (mills) has a tendency to get burned deep
...only stupid thing in your post. Mills is a stud! Period! The rest of your post was right on.
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