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re: "They (assistant coaches) have no problem saying 'Yes Sir You're Right'"

Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66344 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:58 pm to
You can't even fricking read.

I was bashing the whole "let the man make mistakes its his arse" attitude.

Its our arse too.

If O goes back to being over controlling and micromanaging like he was at Ole Miss, LSU will suffer.

We already suffered last year. 9-4 ISN'T GOOD.

OOC games count. You need to accept that.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:58 pm to
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Dumb and dumber. Do you remember Saban hiring a DC, while at LSU, then firing him a month later. All coaches make hiring mistakes.



Sounds like someone that knows how to cut his losses.

He isn't going to hire someone he doesn't even want to hire then waste a season before cutting him loose.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66344 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:09 pm to
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Dumb and dumber. Do you remember Saban hiring a DC, while at LSU, then firing him a month later. All coaches make hiring mistakes.


Saban can also coach a Defense and it doesn't fricking matter who his DC is.

It kinda matters who is the OC for O

But i loooooved his fix for the Troy game

brilliant stuff

O Pumpers need to keep pretending like this is ok.
Posted by kkv75
Member since Sep 2017
4890 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:11 pm to
Meet me at sonic please.
Posted by DontCare
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
2516 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:32 pm to
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A five minute review of Canada's coaching history would have told you the guy was hard to work with.

To be fair, despite the fact that his constant job changes was a concern that everyone expressed, Canada was undoubtedly the hottest coordinator name in the country. I can’t remember a single talking head call him anything less than a home run hire.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93643 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:39 pm to
It's still not a good idea to hire a guy that runs a different offense than you want to run, just the same as you did at your previous job. Then, make him run plays that aren't part of his offense just as you did at your previous job.

Etling after the Troy game:
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“It was just a normal offense, stuff we kind of did last year,” Etling said. “We did a little bit of the switch back to what we were doing (under Canada) in the second half.”

quote:

Etling called it a “mixture” of Canada’s scheme and the one from last season.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:40 pm to
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To be fair, despite the fact that his constant job changes was a concern that everyone expressed, Canada was undoubtedly the hottest coordinator name in the country. I can’t remember a single talking head call him anything less than a home run hire.





Sure, it was a home run hire, provided that he even wanted to fricking hire the guy, which he didn't. It had no chance to succeed.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32624 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:43 pm to
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Promoting both from within at the beginning would've soured even more people.
I agree but they just basically set 1.5 million dollars on fire. With the benefit of hindsight- I would have rather him just promote E.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
12998 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:50 pm to
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I just flat out to refuse to believe that he's that stupid.



This is the same man who once put his team through a full contact scrimmage during a weather delay in the middle of a game.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67865 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:51 pm to
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You nega-tigers suck! How about wait til the season plays out? Ya'lls negativity does nothing to help our team win, it's a detriment! So why don't you stfu until the season starts and root for OUR team til then
If the team sucks, then vent. Damn, ya'll are out of control



Go crawl back into your safe space buddy.
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 10:02 pm
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
12998 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:55 pm to
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Ed hasn't even been a DC


He has actually. He was his own DC at Ole Miss.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67865 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:58 pm to
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Lmao. ALL, and I mean ALL coaches make hires that don't work out. Anything to bash though right?



He is repeating the same mistakes he did at Ole Miss that he assured us that he learned from

He promised to hire the best coordinators, and let them do their jobs. LSU ran a offense last season that was drastically different from anything LSU has run in over a decade, and within the 4 first games, O's hands are all over it and it leads to significant problems.

I understand hires and other stuff don't work out but clearly he did not do his research with Canada. We all knew he has a history of being very anal about how his offense is run, etc.. Not defending Canada, I am sure he is an a-hole but thats besides the point, O did not do his HW on that hire. His only option was Kiffin who had no intentions of coming here, he wanted to be a head coach. As soon as that didn't fall through it went to hell in a hand basket.

So now LSU is in a position where it will be running a third offense in the last three seasons. Hopefully Steve E can make it work and we are successful, if thats not the case, no one is to blame but O himself on this
Posted by Summer of George
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
5995 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 10:28 pm to
Exactly. He wanted good ole baw yes men. He’s going to kill the program and lsu deserves it for supporting this horrible hire.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 10:40 pm to
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He has actually. He was his own DC at Ole Miss.



Hired himself, then drove that defense into the ground.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26614 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:19 am to
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Orgeron and Alleva went after him because he was "the" big name at OC and it's what Orgeron sold himself on.



I still don't understand why we didn't go after a guy like Gilbert. Has had explosive offenses everywhere he went, including Texas.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26614 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 5:30 am to
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you are saying he took that decision lightly? once again, that is not a fact. he was pressured to make the hire and it seemed like a damn good one at the time


Only morons thought it was a damn good hire. Were you one of the stupid people with the "O Canada_ shite last year?

He didn't even attempt to do research on anybody else. He wanted Lane, didn't get him and instead of going outside of the box he goes after a "big name", and his other guy he really wanted was Ensminger. How could anybody consider that list good enough for LSU?

If LSU is mediocre over the next 2 years, Aranda needs to be hired with the quickness, or go after an offensive minded coach.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54546 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:26 am to
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I still don't understand why we didn't go after a guy like Gilbert. Has had explosive offenses everywhere he went, including Texas.
because O wouldn't be sure that gilbert would be a yes man. He needs yes men to inflate that ego of his. he has his staff now, no excuses to lose with the talent he has
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
8633 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:28 am to
Those saying it is an actual quote, it wasn’t on either of the two videos on the front page tigerdroppings article. It may be a quote, but it’s from a different video from what I thought this post was referencing. I haven’t seen whatever this video is.
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:51 am to
Canada sucked ! Get over it!!!
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10694 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:25 pm to
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Canada sucked ! Get over it!!!


Most of us are granting you this point, but the point is that if Ensminger doesn’t do better then it’s on Orgeron.
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