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re: The worst thing the LSU Ath Dept has ever done...
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:36 am to Cajun Revolution
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:36 am to Cajun Revolution
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So this group of guys, who have been tailgating for YEARS decided to disband their tailgate over $360 a year...is that what I'm understanding? I find it hard to believe that was worth selling a trailor and disbanding over. There are 6 or 7 games a year. If you have 5/6 people thats $50-$70 extra per family. You want me to believe yall disbanded over $70 a person? Get real. If so, yall are a bunch of cheapos.
Like I said, I didn't make the call. They just sold all everything and we found out later. Shitty, I know, that's why I just found other friends/alums to get in with since I'm coming from out of town now. It was a big group too, just shows that this decision is running people off...
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:36 am to fr33manator
if they want to keep it at 40 bucks they need to bring better teams in for ooc games. This might be harder to do in the future with all this conference expansion bullshite.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:37 am to gorillaballin
I had some fuzzy math, its been corrected. Should be $540 with a trailer over 6 games.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:37 am to spslayto
Even with all of this shite implemented hearing that they shut down giving out the passes @ 3:30 is perhaps the dumbest thing I've heard yet.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:41 am to Tigerdew
the only reason i could see for that is the team bus and stuff like that getting onto campus so they wanted the streets closed to traffic. Im not sure what lots would be directly affected by the bus passing so it might have just been a dumb move to close them that early.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:45 am to heartbreakTiger
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if they want to keep it at 40 bucks they need to bring better teams in for ooc games. This might be harder to do in the future with all this conference expansion bullshite.
We play a hard enough schedule as it is, and already have tough ooc opponents. everyone schedules at least a few games where they have a reasonable chance at winning. the schedule strength is not a problem, at all.
It's the short sighted economics that will hurt LSU in the long run. If people won't come when we are winning, what happens when (god forbid) we hit a slump?
You want to keep the energy level on campus on gameday as high as possible, because that drives continued behaviour during down periods. people come just for the tailgate, even if we aren't looking great.
and they keep spending money
fairweather fans generate money just like hardcore fans. they are the ones you have to drag in with the fanfare and make hardcore fans. You have to maintain the energy or it wanes.
And that is bad overall
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:54 am to fr33manator
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this is the thing, people spend an ASSLOAD of money in the community to tailgate. LSU makes an assload selling beer and merchandise to these tailgaters. You lure them in with free parking and just the fact of them being there generates revenue, on top of the revenue for the surrounding area.
When you jack up fees so high as to discourage not just the riff raff, but good fans as well, you not only hurt the atmosphere that made Tiger Game day what it is, but you discourage tradition forming habits to keep it going.
and then there is the mission creep.
If fans end up paying the exorbitant fees for the big games, then soon all the spots around campus will be pay to park. then you have to staff all those lots as well.
people get fed up with the hassle, fed up with the fees, then just stay home. then their kids don't have the tradition of tailgating to drive those continued behaviours, so over time you lose out on so much more revenue than will ever be generated though ridiculous fees.
You kill the golden goose to make a quick buck.
I understand the need to start charging for parking, but what LSU is just off. Like I said before, I paid $30 to park right by freaking Jerry World...and have never paid more than $30 outside the Superdome.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:55 am to fr33manator
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LSU makes an assload selling beer and merchandise to these tailgaters
LSU sells beer ?
Not sure about you but most tailgaters do not buy a things from LSU other than tickets to the game.
Now the BR economy is a differant story.
I also know there are thousands of people who go out to tailgate with no intention of going to the game. This sucks for the avg fan who may not want to tailgate for 8 hours, only wishes to go cheer his Tigers on. Before he had to park 3 miles down Nichelson to get to the game. Now maybe he can choose to pay a little and not walk 3 miles.
IMO the tailgating had gotten a little out of hand.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:57 am to Cajun Revolution
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So this group of guys, who have been tailgating for YEARS decided to disband their tailgate over $540 a year...is that what I'm understanding? I find it hard to believe that was worth selling a trailor and disbanding over. There are 6 or 7 games a year. If you have a bunch of people thats $50-$70 extra per family.
You want me to believe yall disbanded over $70 a person? Get real. If so, yall are a bunch of cheapos.
you act like $540 is nothing...that is a significant chunck of change.
And you are also not adding in the cost of people who arent part of the core group that puts on the tailgate but juts goes and visits/parties at the tailgate, if those people stop coming due to not wanting to pay to park or deal with the hassle then its not worth it to keep a tailgate going as well
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:58 am to tritiger
My biggest issue is that LSU doesn't take advantage of other ways to make money. There should be 10 times the vendors on campus. Lsu should get a piece of that. The big issue with tailgating is last year we would spend 300.00 a game. In addition to the extra 90.00 getting supplies to the game and dropping off people is an added headache. We disbanded our tailgate crew because of the unknown and logistics of it. If they would charge 25.00 per tent, or tailgate. It would work out better for all parties.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:59 am to jpbTiger
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The worst thing the LSU Ath Dept has ever done...
Gerry Dinardo?
, not even close. Dinardo wasn't awful. If you were around during the 1996 and 1997 seasons, you watched Dinardo win 10 games (1996) and beat the defending national champs on the way to a 9 win season (1997). That hadn't happened since the late 1990's. He also started the current trend of keeping big time athletes from the state in the state.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 10:02 am to fr33manator
This is LSU's way of making money off the fans who just come to campus to tailgate. LSU knows that for every home game their are thousands of fans on campus without a ticket and LSU found a way to make money off of people who were on campus for free.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 10:07 am to geaux99
quote:THIS. Dinardo either brought the magic back, or was the first big step in bringing it back.
not even close. Dinardo wasn't awful. If you were around during the 1996 and 1997 seasons, you watched Dinardo win 10 games (1996) and beat the defending national champs on the way to a 9 win season (1997). That hadn't happened since the late 1990's. He also started the current trend of keeping big time athletes from the state in the state.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 10:08 am to geaux99
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geaux99
Dude, read the post before looking foolish. I said this parking fiasco is the worst thing LSU AD has ever done. I gave the example of Gerry D as a point in time when the tide turned and things started getting good on game day. In no way did I criticize Coach DiNardo, but thanks for reading.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 10:15 am to tritiger
Rolled up with my Dad in the Hay Lots at 1pm and parked for free . Zero Traffique.
My best friend & another friend of ours rolled up at around 1:30-1:45pm into the Hay Lot and parked for free Zero Traffique.
Same story on the way out. Zero Traffique.
Won't be that way for another game this year.
Kentucky (well, maybe not), Florida, Auburn, & Arkansas will have that area packed to the gills just like always.
My best friend & another friend of ours rolled up at around 1:30-1:45pm into the Hay Lot and parked for free Zero Traffique.
Same story on the way out. Zero Traffique.
Won't be that way for another game this year.
Kentucky (well, maybe not), Florida, Auburn, & Arkansas will have that area packed to the gills just like always.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 10:16 am to tritiger
My quick math estimates probably mean that LSU didn't make a significant amount of money to offset the frustration that has occurred.
If they brought in maybe $50,000 in new revenue, but easily spent $30,000 in signage, printing passes, additional staff costs, marketing expenses for the new plan, police expenses, etc.
So all that for $20,000 a game? Get some corporate sponsor to brand each of the lots, they'd stand to make more money that way.
If they brought in maybe $50,000 in new revenue, but easily spent $30,000 in signage, printing passes, additional staff costs, marketing expenses for the new plan, police expenses, etc.
So all that for $20,000 a game? Get some corporate sponsor to brand each of the lots, they'd stand to make more money that way.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 10:19 am to tritiger
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The worst thing the LSU Ath Dept has ever done...
+
Nothing else even comes close.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 10:37 am to Kajungee
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Isn't the money from these paid parking going back to the University and not the athletic department?
no. it's what they want you to think. it's going to the ath dept. and LSU spins it as saying because of budget cuts the ath dept can't make the same donation to academics it normally does. but with the charges, maybe they can/will. gotta love maybe's.
LSU wanted another revenue stream, so in turn i have to cut my expenses (so i can't donate to university, forever LSU, etc.)
just pissed because i wanted to donate to non athletic programs, but now the parking has become my mandatory donation.
we definitely saw a decrease in traffic at our spot in the early going. it got better as the day went on (mostly because people who park in free parking east of highland have to pass us). some krewes around us didn't show up though. our parking lot is usually full by 10 am. there were spots at 5 pm.
i get out there at 7 am to tailgate but my wife and daughers have no urge to get out there so soon. so instead of coming to most games, she's only coming to one this year b/c we don't want to pay for two cars and her with two small children to tote from the free spots.
but hey isn't that what LSU tailgating is all about: missing out tailgating with family members because of finances??
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IMO the tailgating had gotten a little out of hand.
sorry for partying.
(i've just always wanted to say that)
Posted on 9/12/11 at 11:26 am to Eighteen
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you act like $540 is nothing...that is a significant chunck of change.
If there is a group of guys who have been dedicated to doing this for YEARS...with a whole setup...then NO its not that big a deal. How many people are in a tailgating krewe typically? 5,6,7?
Divide that over a season and we're not talking that much money. If you can afford to tromp out there every Saturday to put on an expensive tailgate...I don't see the issue with paying a parking fee.
Do I think its excessive for the casual fan? Yes. But those folks with trailers and Krewes...No, I don't really feel bad for. Its a cost of doing business.
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