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re: The Waters pass was not dumb, and not calling a time out isn't a bad call

Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:46 pm to
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He missed 4 close range alley oops tonight. He hit the rim once or twice and was off target on every one


Guess what, Waters has 4 or 5 WTF plays every game. He also carries this team on his back often. Usually as he goes, we go. If you want the good he brings, you have to be willing to accept the bad.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:47 pm to
Couldn't agree more. My only disagreement with people is that Waters single handedly lossed the game. The decision was dumb.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:47 pm to
That’s a straw man dude, I’m not saying Waters sucks at all but that was a terrible decision that’s the point.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
97882 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:47 pm to
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Guess what, Waters has 4 or 5 WTF plays every game. He also carries this team on his back often. Usually as he goes, we go. If you want the good he brings, you have to be willing to accept the bad.

Now this I agree with 100%.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:48 pm to
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The Waters pass was not dumb,


Bruh, come the frick on
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23504 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:48 pm to
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That’s a straw man dude, I’m not saying Waters sucks at all but that was a terrible decision that’s the point


Except, it wasn't a terrible decision. Poor execution, yes.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58845 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:49 pm to
Yes it was a terrible decision it’s a low percentage play for all world players much less college guys. That makes it a stupid decision.
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
13545 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:51 pm to
Was abso-fricking-lutely a stupid decision. I hope CWW tore his arse out of the frame.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23504 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:51 pm to
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Yes it was a terrible decision it’s a low percentage play for all world players much less college guys. That makes it a stupid decision


So, if he would have walked up 10 feet, to in the 3 point line area (a play they have successful run tons this season) it would have then been ok?
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
16837 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:52 pm to
C'mon man, it was a terrible decision given the game situation. Even if it had worked.

I said in another thread, I don't mind being aggressive there, but drive and get the ball in the paint, at least.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58845 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:52 pm to
The only time you ever throw one from there is when you’re up big and it’s a fast break type play. Any other situation it’s a 1 in 10 chance
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:52 pm to
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What's a better shot than a wide open dunk?


You’re fluffing it up calling that an open dunk

lsu was getting to the line at will. You run clock & attempt to draw the foul unless you have a sure basket. That alley oop surely wouldn’t qualify

As for timeout there’s no true hierarchy established on this team esp when Waters played like he did tonight. You’d like to see a stoppage there & give your team a little direction. Smart got a decent look but once you see him dribble down into the corner you need to take a TO. That’s the last spot you want to be
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58845 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:53 pm to
If he cuts the distance in half yes it increases his chances greatly. Still not a smart play in that situation but much better than the shite he pulled.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
10315 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:53 pm to
Waters needs to value the basketball from opening tip till clock hits zero.

He has started 50+ games now.

No way Wade could have imagined that pass at that point of the game.

He has to be better.

Posted by GRIZZ
PRAIRIEVILLE
Member since Nov 2009
5756 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:53 pm to
It was an undisciplined play. We were killing them at the freethrow line. We had all the momentum. That pass was unnecessary and undisciplined. As was smarts shot the possession prior. I can assure you WW didn't approve of either.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58845 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:54 pm to
It’s not an open dunk, an open dunk is when you have the ball alone that was a 45 foot alley pop pass that’s not an open dunk at all.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
68672 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:55 pm to
We killed them on the offensive boards. Their big was out. Smart play is to run the offense and crash the boards
This post was edited on 2/2/19 at 7:55 pm
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23504 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:55 pm to
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You’re fluffing it up calling that an open dunk


Guess I need to rewatch the play. In the heat of the moment, I thought the dunk was wide open and the pass was a bit off.

If the pass was contested, then it makes it a bad decision. I didn't see it that way watching live though.
This post was edited on 2/2/19 at 7:56 pm
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
43050 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:55 pm to
Is this where you tell us a half court shot is the same as a layup? Because they both have a chance to go in?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58845 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 7:55 pm to
This is the point that’s getting lost in this absurd discussion. We were getting to the line at will, they fouled us almost every trip down in the final few minutes. That game was 95%+ ours if we just go by the book.
This post was edited on 2/2/19 at 7:56 pm
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