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re: The thing I don’t understand about local media re: the cbs article
Posted on 9/20/24 at 1:41 am to Scoob
Posted on 9/20/24 at 1:41 am to Scoob
I think it is a player's parent. There are 120 guys on the team. One is bound to be disgruntled and have a disconnect with the HC and complain to their parents.
No inside info, just my two cents (which aren't really even worth that).
No inside info, just my two cents (which aren't really even worth that).
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:06 am to Draconian Sanctions
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I don’t expect Hunt to berate the guy or anything but i also didn’t expect him to basically just hand the microphone over and let him restate his story in audio form as a plug for people to go find the article and click on it.
Hunt nicely weaved together a position showing the article was nothing new and based on likely bias sources. No one is going to get in argument with the guy and say your sources are full of shite.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:13 am to Draconian Sanctions
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l’m not saying they need to defend LSU just to defend LSU, but in a situation where there’s an obvious agenda at play do you really need to sweep that under the rug? There has to be more to the story here? I legitimately do not get it.
Unnamed sources
Vs
Direct quotes from a key player
Results on the field
17 point comeback
25 recruiting class
Teams that hate their coaches don’t win 10 games. They don’t come back after being down 17 on the road. They don’t crush it in recruiting.
For once the media is doing was needs to be done by fans protecting the brand. LSU fans love to shite on the team and program, so it’s nice to see pushback from our media (minus Hunt).
Seriously - frick this guy, why are you even entertaining this?
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 9:25 am
Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:20 am to DBG
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Media don’t like blasting other media
Media personalities do not like to burn bridges. They know that one day, they will have a new coach to talk about. They also know that one day, they may need an exclusive interview or a source, so they do not want to piss off their peers.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:56 am to Locoguan0
Unless someone writes something totally inflammatory (Pat Forde) no professional media member is going to have someone on to blast them. The guy said his peace both Hunt and Mascona professionally said this article is full of shite.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:59 am to cbree88
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He absolutely is,
Then you and I have different ideas of what a hard-arse is.
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That fact is ….
And you definitely have a different idea of what constitutes a fact. CBK’s reputation doesn’t constitute a fact. You saying it’s a fact doesn’t either.
CBKs behavior might establish fact. Can you point to any behavior at LSU as a coach that is “hard-arse”?
I can’t.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 10:03 am to jsmoke222000
Not sure you understand.
The local media is not discontent.
Our players are not discontent. Just like anywhere, I’m sure you can find someone who lost a starting job who is sour.
We lost a close game to Southern Cal and everyone is freaking out.
We will win 9 games this year and keep building our program. Yeah, I’d rather feel like the playoffs is guaranteed, but this may not be the year. We however would have made a 12 team playoff in BK’s first year.
If we don’t make the playoffs next year, then it will get heated.
The local media is not discontent.
Our players are not discontent. Just like anywhere, I’m sure you can find someone who lost a starting job who is sour.
We lost a close game to Southern Cal and everyone is freaking out.
We will win 9 games this year and keep building our program. Yeah, I’d rather feel like the playoffs is guaranteed, but this may not be the year. We however would have made a 12 team playoff in BK’s first year.
If we don’t make the playoffs next year, then it will get heated.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 10:17 am to DCTiger
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Matt Moscona is a fcuking dipshit when it comes to LSU sports. Do yourself a favor and stop entertaining this buffoon. He’s just another click-bait grifter who doesn’t understand football or the business of football.
Got examples of how bad he is, other than he gets things wrong sometimes (something true of every sports media personality ever)?
Never understood the unmitigated hatred for this guy.
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 10:18 am
Posted on 9/20/24 at 10:33 am to Hot Carl
I like listening to Charles and Hunt. TBob….i have no use for. Matt…I’ll give him a B grade. Ott…gets on my nerve with this daily gambling shite.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 12:07 pm to Zephyrius
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I have the theory that a program like alabama would send a little stipend to certain media if they write negatively regarding LSU. Kinda like how Pawwwl is currently shitting on LSU.
I’m not sure about the “stipend”, but there has undoubtedly been a concerted effort by pro-Bama media for years to do things to help that program which includes promulgating negative information about other schools.
2011 is the most obvious example of the media helping Bama - but go back to ESPNs coverage of the day Saban was hired at the school and televising Bama’s spring game that year which was unprecedented for a school coming off several disappointing seasons.
I’d also go so far as to say that the media’s change from portraying Les Miles as a “riverboat gambler” to an inept, grass chewing crazy uncle was somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy where Les played into that persona, and it ultimately swallowed him up.
Even beyond Davis, Edwards and slimebaum (not a grad, but might as well be), there are multiple Bama plants throughout ESPN and the media that drive the narrative in college football.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 12:23 pm to inadaze
quote:If they played a full schedule, there wouldn't have been a covid protocol, and there wouldn't have been a slew of optouts that obviously affected some teams more than others. LSU was supposed to bring back 9 starters from that championship team. By the time the season started, we had 3 starters from the 2019 team playing games for the 2020 team. Then one of those 3 starters opted out right before the Bama game.
If they played a full schedule in 2020-21, A&M had a good probability of finishing with 13 wins.
TAMU got by because most teams were screwed before the season started. That's why i always laugh when people try to compare that Bama team to the 2019 LSU team. There is no comparison.
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 9/20/24 at 12:48 pm to jsmoke222000
You are plainly stupid. And pathetic.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 1:12 pm to Datbayoubengal
A&M finished the season ranked #4, if that's what you consider "getting by". And they had opt-outs too.
Marshall was a good receiver, but I really don't think he would've had an effect that changed the outcome of that game vs. Alabama.
Marshall was a good receiver, but I really don't think he would've had an effect that changed the outcome of that game vs. Alabama.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 2:13 pm to jsmoke222000
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LSU is entering a Jimbo / A&M type situation with BK. It all starts with these types of articles in the media. Eventually this will spread discontent with boosters and the fan base.
Wow, you are way out in left field. We just pissed off because he hasnt competed for a Natty yet. He is nowhere Jimbo zone. It could get that way in this day and age but he still has a lot of rope left.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 3:11 pm to p226
Opinions of his reputation are not facts, but it is a fact that the majority of sports commentators have called him a hardass over the years.
He seems to become quite angry and lay into players quite frequently. That’s his way of keeping people in line and holding people accountable. I know he didn’t do that for Kyren Lacy during the USC game, but that doesn’t negate everything else he’s ever done.
Funny how when Nick Saban does this he’s hailed as a great disciplinarian and leader of men but when Brian Kelly does it he’s considered a prick who’s too mean to his players.
He seems to become quite angry and lay into players quite frequently. That’s his way of keeping people in line and holding people accountable. I know he didn’t do that for Kyren Lacy during the USC game, but that doesn’t negate everything else he’s ever done.
Funny how when Nick Saban does this he’s hailed as a great disciplinarian and leader of men but when Brian Kelly does it he’s considered a prick who’s too mean to his players.
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 9/20/24 at 3:22 pm to inadaze
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Yeah, of course. It's really beside the point. The point is Texas A&M would've been in the double digits in wins with a full schedule. Jimbo's role is a side point. I'm just saying that's another reason to not be unfair with a distorted narrative about him.
Jimbo is a loser who rode the coattails of Nick Saban in the 2000s in order to get the head coaching job at Florida State eventually. At Florida State he would have been fired if not for the successes of Jameis Winston vastly inflating his reputation as a head coach and making millions and millions of dollars for him.
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 9/20/24 at 3:55 pm to Gravitiger
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I think it is a player's parent
yes a current player or a recruit and the dad is a former player. these are boosters. Bollinger family I believe.
Posted on 9/20/24 at 10:40 pm to cbree88
There have been a lot of good QBs who didn't "inflate" coaches to the level Florida State was at with Jimbo.
That was a failed attempt at spinning a narrative. And if you're trying to argue for Kelly, comparing him to Jimbo with Florida State isn't the route you want to take.
That was a failed attempt at spinning a narrative. And if you're trying to argue for Kelly, comparing him to Jimbo with Florida State isn't the route you want to take.
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 9/20/24 at 11:31 pm to inadaze
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comparing him to Jimbo with Florida State isn't the route you want to take.
Yeah, you’re right. Kelly had way more sustained success at Notre Dame than Jimbo did at Florida State.
Jimbo was mediocre at best and sometimes downright awful at Florida State outside of his 2013 and 2014 seasons with Jameis Winston. (Although even in 2014 with Jameis they were overrated and got exposed in a 40-point loss to Oregon in the CFP semifinals)
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 9/20/24 at 11:39 pm to inadaze
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There have been a lot of good QBs who didn't "inflate" coaches to the level Florida State was at with Jimbo.
Correct, but some QBs HAVE elevated their programs to that level.
Jameis Winston is one great example. Joe Burrow is another great example. Ed Orgeron’s coaching career completely imploded after Burrow and company moved on.
Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and Peyton Manning are great NFL examples. Their franchises went to shite after the great QB left. (Patriots, Saints, Colts, and Broncos)
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