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The Perkins Sack and Forced Fumble Call

Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:47 am
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50137 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:47 am
Was that a bullshite call ? I sure thought so .,
Posted by FWBTigah
Member since Oct 2017
934 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:48 am to
It was close…looked like it could go either way depending on the angle…I personally thought the hand was moving forward
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
9664 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:48 am to
The arm may have been going forward, but the ball went backwards.
Posted by geauxdroddz
Member since Nov 2016
2042 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:48 am to
even florida knows that was a fumble.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41932 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:49 am to
Should have stayed with call on field
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13461 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:49 am to
When the ball left his hand it was going backwards. It’s either a lateral or fumble. I’ll go to my grave believing that.

Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39390 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:51 am to
quote:

The arm may have been going forward, but the ball went backwards.

Did Perkins make contact with the ball? If so, it doesn’t matter if it went backwards. That alone would not make it a fumble.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14420 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:51 am to
The only way he could be ruled not a fumble is if the pass was batted down by Perkins causing it to go backwards. Richardson left the field believing it was a fumble.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8638 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:53 am to
Yeah. There should be a rule like “if you hand is still behind your head, it’s a fumble”. The ball direction should be telling to the refs. Similar to block in the back falling on back or stomach.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24273 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:54 am to
Definitely not indisputable evidence to overturn it and it appeared to me that he hit his arm before the arm ever started going forward.

I also thought Thomas showed enough control for his catch to stand as called on the field. Weird overturned calls there with little to say it was indisputable based on what was called on the field.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
17272 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:55 am to
What's funny is either the next play or the play after was a backwards screen pass that skipped off the ground and the refs blew it dead. I couldn't believe what I was watching

Between that and the refs taking 5 minutes to review what down it was in Bama/Tenn it wasn't the best of days for the refs
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
9664 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Did Perkins make contact with the ball? If so, it doesn’t matter if it went backwards. That alone would not make it a fumble.


I think it was an empty hand when it went forward.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66609 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:56 am to
Now that we’ve won, I do Kinda think it was the right call…

Hand started had JUST a started to come forward and Perkins punched it out
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 10:58 am
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54567 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 11:00 am to
All I know is that closing speed Perkins has is amazing
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3266 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 11:05 am to
quote:

Hand started had JUST a started to come forward and Perkins punched it out


This is what happened and the refs got it right according to the letter of the rules.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3736 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 11:07 am to
real speed fumble
one of the first three replays I saw ball move forward about 2 inches max, said I'd have to overturn.
never saw that angle again though, the more it replayed. the more I thought fumble
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18664 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 11:08 am to
It was the worst review since PP interception against Bama
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10428 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 11:10 am to
quote:

What's funny is either the next play or the play after was a backwards screen pass that skipped off the ground and the refs blew it dead.
The rule is that if there is a backwards pass and the players don't try to pick it up or the player doesn't try to advance it, the play is dead at that spot. That's why it went from 15-to-go to 20-to-go. Tess and McElroy were too busy talking about where UT and Bama should be ranked to explain what was happening on the field.
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 11:12 am
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22380 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 11:11 am to
There clearly wasn’t enough to reverse the call IMO. Same could’ve been said if the reverse was actually called on the field.

That being said, the Roughing Penalty on the INT was a pretty BS call as well.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 11:14 am to
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Should have stayed with call on field


I agree. That was as on the borderline of pass/fumble as you can get, but they should have just said it stands and stuck with the call on the field.
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