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re: The Confluence of Events Leading to O's Downfall
Posted on 12/10/20 at 12:36 pm to Chicken
Posted on 12/10/20 at 12:36 pm to Chicken
quote:Yep.
I believe Ja'marr Chase leaving had a huge affect on the cohesion of this year's team...once he opted out, I think the team started to lose some interest in the season...then Stingley being out for first game and us being embarrassed by Miss State started the downhill turn...
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Posted on 12/10/20 at 12:40 pm to Tigerlaff
Woodward can’t do the job he has. Why should he get a promotion?
Posted on 12/10/20 at 12:43 pm to Tigerlaff
bullshite! That's the biggest crock of shite that I've ever read on this board. That says a lot. Show me this statistic.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 12:59 pm to batlcat
quote:
bullshite! That's the biggest crock of shite that I've ever read on this board. That says a lot. Show me this statistic.
Yale study in 2016 that studied this exact topic.
yale study
quote:
In stark contrast to non-lethal uses of force, we find no racial differences in officer-involved
shootings on either the extensive or intensive margins.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 1:05 pm to Chicken
quote:
I believe Ja'marr Chase leaving had a huge affect on the cohesion of this year's team...once he opted out, I think the team started to lose some interest in the season...then Stingley being out for first game and us being embarrassed by Miss State started the downhill turn...
Agreed, it was a huge let down.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 1:25 pm to JohnnyU
quote:
It was O’s similar attitude to your statement that created this shiny. It had nothing to do with not kowtowing. It was about not listening or showing any understanding of the players experiences. (Note that I said “experiences”, not “feelings”.)
Pretty much. Want to see a dichotomy? Look at how Saban handled that issue versus how O handled the issue:
Saban is a huge a-hole and a cutthroat coach, but he is also an incredible leader. Do you think he is fully onboard with BLM principles? It doesn't matter because he is fully onboard with his players and is able to put personal thoughts aside for them. Hence him leading them on that march as if he were leading them out onto the field, right out in front.
Where was O? Maybe Hammond, maybe Destin. It doesn't matter because it was not with the team.
Just a little piece of the puzzle for why each respective coach is in their current position.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 1:28 pm to Tigerlaff
This is #1. Everything else football related is a by product
quote:
Attrition. Most of this is a side-effect of losing and COVID restrictions killing team morale, but I have a feeling we are about to see this hit the recruiting class. If we implode on early signing day next week, this will erase the single bright spot on the season and encourage Woodward to make his move.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 1:32 pm to Srobi14
A primary obstacle to the study of police use of force has been the lack of readily available data.
Data on lower level uses of force, which happen more frequently than officer-involved shootings, are
virtually non-existent. This is due, in part, to the fact that most police precincts don’t explicitly
collect data on use of force, and in part, to the fact that even when the data is hidden in plain
view within police narrative accounts of interactions with civilians, it is exceedingly difficult to
extract.
From the same study.
Data on lower level uses of force, which happen more frequently than officer-involved shootings, are
virtually non-existent. This is due, in part, to the fact that most police precincts don’t explicitly
collect data on use of force, and in part, to the fact that even when the data is hidden in plain
view within police narrative accounts of interactions with civilians, it is exceedingly difficult to
extract.
From the same study.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 1:38 pm to Ethan Martin
quote:
We need to sell LSU more and get rid of the NFLSU bullshite!
Are we honestly pushing the “NFL pipeline” angle more than Bama, Clemson OSU etc?
I can’t imagine we are. There has to be some other reason why guys just roll through Baton Rouge that isn’t happening as often in Tuscaloosa, Columbus and Clemson.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 1:47 pm to StupidBinder
According to J. Bel and his crowd I am a racist because I believe ALL LAWS should be obeyed by ALL PEOPLE, INCLUDING POLITICIANS!!!!!!!!!!!
Earth to LT, pay your taxes!!!!!!!!!!
Never in human history have so many lived so well, complained so much, and stuck out their hands for more free stuff!!!!!!!!!
:violin: :violin: :violin:
Earth to LT, pay your taxes!!!!!!!!!!
Never in human history have so many lived so well, complained so much, and stuck out their hands for more free stuff!!!!!!!!!
:violin: :violin: :violin:
Posted on 12/10/20 at 1:50 pm to Tigerlaff
How much did Kelly get in the divorce?
Posted on 12/10/20 at 1:58 pm to Tigerlaff
quote:
statistical data
Uh, oh.
This isn't how you argue in 2020.
Just comply, or you're racist, sexist, -phobic, Hitler, etc.
This post was edited on 12/10/20 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 12/10/20 at 3:13 pm to batlcat
My interpretation of that is that the use of force is not well documented excluding lethal force. Data on Fatalities/shootings (the topic of discussion) would almost certainly be reported and available.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 3:18 pm to Tigerlaff
Love him or hate him the one thing that Les was great at was controlling chaos. Granted most of the chaos, especially towards the end, was his own doing but he was great at getting his teams to play no matter what was swirling around them. Les would have never had a season like 2019 but he also never would have a season like this.
Disclaimer: this is not meant to say I want Les back nor that he is even a better or worse coach than O just making an observation.
Disclaimer: this is not meant to say I want Les back nor that he is even a better or worse coach than O just making an observation.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 3:34 pm to Tigerlaff
quote:
I think what you are seeing is Woodward taking advantage of chaos to remake the athletic department and catapult himself into the LSU system president's chair. He needs an achievement like this to out-maneuver the presumptive front-runner, Jay Dardenne.
You are incorrect regarding your assertion about Dardenne's candidacy for the position. He is no longer applying, which was reported in October after the board voted to keep the President and Chancellor position merged as one. Dardenne only wanted the President position, likely because he knows the faculty would've revolted (just like they will with Woodward) if he were Chancellor too.
quote:
And Commissioner of Administration Jay Dardenne, who has expressed interest in taking over as head of the system, said he's no longer planning to apply because it appears the university will not hire two candidates and is staying with a combined president/chancellor.
Advocate Article
Posted on 12/10/20 at 3:40 pm to Tigerlaff
Stupid to get rid of O.
He was the consensus pick for coach of the year in 2019. And fielded arguably the best team in the history of college football.
This is a bunch of O-Haters desperately trying to be right about something.
He was the consensus pick for coach of the year in 2019. And fielded arguably the best team in the history of college football.
This is a bunch of O-Haters desperately trying to be right about something.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 3:49 pm to Damone
Nick Saban:
Apparently the dude to the back-right of Saban disagrees.
quote:
"That’s why I’ve been very proud of the way our players have approached it. I think that they are doing some things that can effect change in our community as well as the messaging that they’ve sent: That all lives matter, including Black lives."
Apparently the dude to the back-right of Saban disagrees.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 5:10 pm to Tigerlaff
He unzipped his pants....
Posted on 12/10/20 at 5:29 pm to Tigerlaff
He was at the Sandestin Hilton with his new woman this summer in the pool. That is where that one photo that made it online was taken. This while telling his players to stay on campus and shelter in place. Reminds me of that democratic governor of California.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 6:08 pm to TigerLaw40
Interesting, thanks TigerLaw. Did not know Jay was out of it. He was in that conversation for years. Will edit the OP.
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