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re: Texas insider just “doesn’t see it with LSU this year”
Posted on 8/27/24 at 2:22 pm to friendlyobservation
Posted on 8/27/24 at 2:22 pm to friendlyobservation
quote:It's not a grounded take. It's a tired, surface level, lame take that anybody can make by looking at what was lost and brought in. No real research done.
He may be right on these nobody can really say. It's a pretty grounded take honestly. That being said, his opinion is no better than anyone else on here because nobody has a clue how good LSU will be this year.
Who cares about the Nuss thing? LSU went 9-3 with Daniels in his first year with a bad OL, mediocre run game, and not an elite passing game. The defense was 33rd in scoring and 41 in total defense. Nuss won’t equal Daniels's passing unless he throws a lot or plays 14 games, but he will be damn good and much better than first year Daniels as a passer. As far as the rushing? I expect LSU to finish top 10 in rushing, but all of it coming from the RBs. Meaning bruising, and breaking people's will. Eating up the clock.
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Posted on 8/27/24 at 2:23 pm to Datbayoubengal
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If LSU is going to be pounding the rock a lot, i don't see Nuss throwing the ball 33 times a game.
It's also his first year as a starter and he won't benefit from having a terrible defense that means keeping the offense out there so much.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 2:24 pm to GeauxVU
I mean we could do it... 
Posted on 8/27/24 at 2:27 pm to LSBoosie
quote:There is not one LSU media member who has watched practices will tell you that the secondary is bad and we have no pass rush from the DL, except for maybe Hunt about some individual and 7 on 7 drills.
Are they? Several people who have been covering LSU all fall have said very similar things.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 2:49 pm to Datbayoubengal
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Daniels had 3800 passing yards in 12 games. He averaged 11.7 yards per attempt. Let's say Nuss averages 9.7 yards per attempt, which would have ranked 5th in the country last year. Nuss would still need 65 more passes than Daniels to equal him. That's 5.4 passes per game extra over a 12 game season. If LSU is going to be pounding the rock a lot, i don't see Nuss throwing the ball 33 times a game. And that's if he's 5th in yards per attempt. At 9 yards per attempt (12th in the country), he would need 95 more passes
Yep. Daniels finished 3rd in the nation in total passing yards in the regular season. Just behind Penix, and less than 100 yards behind Nix. That was in addition to him running for 1100 yards. I'm not sure people truly appreciate how ridiculous a stat line he put up last year. If Nussmeier gets to 4000 yards passing he would be approaching Joe Burrow numbers (4,366 yards in 2019 regular season). That is a LOT to ask of a first time starting QB.
I don't see Nussmeier getting 4000 passing yards in the regular season. Hell, 3,500 would be a HUGE year for him. Which circles back to the original point. It is incredibly unlikely Nussmeier puts out as much production as Daniels did last season. Certainly on the ground, and very unlikely through the air. That was a special season for Daniels last year.
That means LSU is going to have to find a way to make up for that drop in production. Be it through a strong running game (from the RBs) and/or a much better defense that doesn't need the QB to put up nearly 5,000 yards of offense to give the team a chance to win. Expecting Nussmeier to come anywhere close to statistically matching Daniels is really unfair
Posted on 8/27/24 at 3:06 pm to Datbayoubengal
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There is not one LSU media member who has watched practices will tell you that the secondary is bad and we have no pass rush from the DL, except for maybe Hunt about some individual and 7 on 7 drills.
A business partner of mine is in a group that had Joe Sloan as a speaker two weeks ago. In speaking candidly to the group he said the WRs were consistently dominating the DBs and that the secondary was, admittedly, an internal area of concern. Not quite to the level of last season. But not a group they are feeling very confident about going into the season.
The media only sees bits and pieces of practice. So I'll take the OC's opinion over theirs. But if you'd prefer to listen to the media, here's a couple of guys discussing last week's scrimmage where EACH said the secondary remains a question mark. And they don't exactly sound overly confident.
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"Bad" is subjective. I don't think LSU's secondary will be as bad as last year simply because a new overall approach to the defense will help them. But "not bad" doesn't equal "good". It's a big concern
Posted on 8/27/24 at 3:11 pm to Captain Crown
All very valid concerns if you are on this side of the fence. I would add, also losing 2 first round draft picks at WR.
This post was edited on 8/27/24 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 8/27/24 at 3:21 pm to Captain Crown
John Connor?
Posted on 8/27/24 at 3:21 pm to Captain Crown
I just want to finally win a game 1.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 3:26 pm to Alt26
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In speaking candidly to the group he said the WRs were consistently dominating the DBs and that the secondary was, admittedly, an internal area of concern
In one v one drills, they were. But they should. In teams, they weren't getting destroyed.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 3:28 pm to Captain Crown
Post it on the motivation board in the locker room!
Posted on 8/27/24 at 3:30 pm to Alt26
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Again, not wholly unreasonable (unless you are counting Perkins as an "edge"). LSU returns a total of 7.5 combined sacks among the group of Swinson, Shand, Womack and Jones...with none, individually, having more than 2.5 sacks last season. LSU doesn't return a single DT who recorded a sack or TFL (for LSU) from last year. Again, I think a lot of that was due to the scheme. But I can understand why those outside wouldn't be terribly confident about LSU's defense.
All true, but I've read and watched multiple reports from different sports analysts and Kelly pressers and there is a consistent theme. There is talent at DE and it's starting to show. The flashes Savion had as a FR are back and Shand and Womack have improved. Peoples is one of the best in the business and he does have talent at DE.
Guillory apparently was either poorly coached or motivated or both, but he's a totally different player. That doesn't mean he'll be an all American, but he should be able to anchor his position . The other DT spot seems like it might be committee.
The final assessment is that the DL will not be a liability (not necessarily a strength) and they can likely generate some pressure from the edge.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 3:35 pm to Captain Crown
I disagree with his point about edge rushers. It seemed like Bradyn Swinson was in the backfield every time he played but for some reason Oghoufo got all of the playing time even though he didn’t do shite.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 5:35 pm to Captain Crown
Bet he didn’t “see” this either.
This post was edited on 8/27/24 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 8/27/24 at 5:38 pm to Captain Crown
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knows about this LSU team already and is an expert on the SEC
He's from TX. Of course He's an expert on everything
Posted on 8/27/24 at 5:39 pm to Tigerpaul1969
Texas screams 7-5 to me. In for a rude awakening in SEC.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 5:39 pm to Captain Crown
Nuss will be just fine. Texas has no one to match JD either.
I think the LSU front seven are going to be eating people.
The dbs are on receivers. Ours but even so. Our core of wrs is very good.
I think the LSU front seven are going to be eating people.
The dbs are on receivers. Ours but even so. Our core of wrs is very good.
This post was edited on 8/27/24 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 8/28/24 at 2:02 am to Datbayoubengal
I did forget about them saying they wanted to control the game more this year with the run game so you are right it will be hard for Nuss to get to 4,000 if that is the plan.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 5:41 am to Captain Crown
We had great pressure in 2033 and social security went broke.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 5:57 am to Captain Crown
people think they’re making some deep analysis by stating Nussmier won’t be able to do what Jayden did.
Yeah no fricking shite you morons.
I guess the defensive staff overhaul is just something that people think won’t matter. They tend to think it’ll be #130 again and we have no talent on offense so we will be worse.
Such a casual take. Now I will say if we’re worse it won’t be because of the defense. It will be the offense not moving the ball with ease. Which I have a real hard time seeing with that nasty OL
Yeah no fricking shite you morons.
I guess the defensive staff overhaul is just something that people think won’t matter. They tend to think it’ll be #130 again and we have no talent on offense so we will be worse.
Such a casual take. Now I will say if we’re worse it won’t be because of the defense. It will be the offense not moving the ball with ease. Which I have a real hard time seeing with that nasty OL
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