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re: Texas has approached CPM about it's head coaching vacancy
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:55 pm to LSUgrad08112
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:55 pm to LSUgrad08112
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he's leading our program into the shitter
If the recent run he's on (five years of Top 8 seeds in a row) is the shitter, I don't know what good is (other than multiple national titles).
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fire Miles (which is a huge, huge, huge gamble and could completely wreck our program
Canning Mainieri wouldn't be a gamble?
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I can guarantee that there isn't a single tiger rant baseball genius who sucks Mainieri off daily who can actually begin to say what his strengths and weaknesses are technically as a coach
Can you name them?
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Wichita State
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Pepperdine
When was the last time either of these two teams were in Omaha? The Shockers haven't even been in a regional since 2009. (Their 2013 appearance was vacated by the NCAA.)
Sounds like someone is still living in the '90s to me, and that parity actually caught up with those schools.
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Not to mention the fact that in recent years, the MLB draft is absolutely gutting college baseball of all of its talent. NCAA baseball has never been weaker than it is right now and we should be able to capitalize on being one of the only schools who can actually draw kids away from the MLB draft.
I don't think this is accurate. Please provide numbers. Seems that a lot of potentially high draft picks are turning down MLB to go to college (Bregman, many pitchers at Vandy and UF, etc.)
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when our recruiting never should've dropped off
This might be something valid to discuss, but everything else can easily be argued against. But then you say this right after:
quote:and then contradict yourself with:
getting skullfricked by Stony Brook and CCU
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Random small schools have always been competitive when the supers roll around.
So are these teams competitive but also not competitive at the same time?
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:56 pm to sicboy
This has been one of my favorite seasons to watch. I hope he stays. I also hope he uses this leverage to tighten up coaching staff pay so they will stay. 
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:57 pm to LSUgrad08112
quote:What was your previous screen name on TigerDroppings?
LSUgrad08112
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:57 pm to sicboy
I'd go. Austin is an awesome city.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:01 pm to sicboy
Give CPM a BIG raise and keep him at LSU!
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:16 pm to Sasquatch Smash
quote:We have the resources to win multiple national titles in a 10 year span, and we should have a coach who can give us that. Not saying that we should win every year, but we should at least be competitive most years. Look at the direction our program is going in since 2009 when Maineri won a national championship with by far the most talented team in the country, do you feel like it's a good direction?
If the recent run he's on (five years of Top 8 seeds in a row) is the shitter, I don't know what good is (other than multiple national titles).
quote:Not really. The only gambles would be losing Dunn and Cannizaro who are two of the best in the country. Baseball across the country isn't 1% as competitive or cutthroat as college football. We can easily hire great coaches away from other programs without much of a fight. Almost every single major coach in the country were in their prime baseball years while LSU was running train on the college baseball world. We're the premier job in the country and we could easily hire whoever we wanted if our AD was mildly competent and spent some of the $700k he's blowing on an awful women's basketball coach on giving our baseball coach a $1.1M salary. I can promise you that it won't be hard to find another baseball coach who can win 45 games, miss the CWS most years, and win 1 national championship in 10 years at LSU.
Canning Mainieri wouldn't be a gamble?
quote:Gladly, why don't you go first though. If you, or anyone else, responds with why you actually think he's a good coach technically, then I'll list some of the 40 reasons that I don't like him. Why would I post my thoughts just to give moron wannabe baseball gurus an excuse to pretend to know what they're talking about and take everything that I say out of context like you are in this post?
Can you name them?
quote:It was an example. Small schools have been good since the 90's in baseball. It's not like the SEC and ACC were dominant for 50 years and suddenly these little schools are catching everyone off guard.
When was the last time either of these two teams were in Omaha? The Shockers haven't even been in a regional since 2009. (Their 2013 appearance was vacated by the NCAA.)
Sounds like someone is still living in the '90s to me, and that parity actually caught up with those schools.
quote:Bregman only ended up at LSU because he got hurt. Vandy and UF can actually recruit because they have good coaches. We should be recruiting like Vandy and UF. I'm sorry if you can't understand why. It's a pretty well known fact to anyone who's ever been involved with baseball that WAY more kids are signing with MLB teams out of high school in recent years than 2005-1960.
I don't think this is accurate. Please provide numbers. Seems that a lot of potentially high draft picks are turning down MLB to go to college (Bregman, many pitchers at Vandy and UF, etc.)
quote:Small schools were always good in the supers, we were just much better. We're not anymore, and it's showing. Schools can be competitive while simultaneously being worse than us.
So are these teams competitive but also not competitive at the same time?
But you're right, the fact that we're being out-recruited by other SEC schools and having mass exoduses every offseason because Mainieri is a douche who plays favorites isn't a problem at all. Nothing to see here, LSU is doing as well as it possibly can.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:20 pm to LSUgrad08112
quote:false
has the most money
quote:false
the best stadium and atmosphere
quote:false
one of the only programs in the country with a legitimate argument as to why a kid should sign and play at LSU rather than going pro after getting drafted in the 5th-15th rounds out of high school.
quote:Oh?
LSU has so many advantages over the field that you can't even list them all
quote:Hasn't been for years.
Our program is the pinnacle of college baseball
quote:I don't care who you recruit. when you have to replace 8 starters, you're not going to have high expectations.
he "overacheived" when our recruiting never should've dropped off
quote:Most I know are indifferent. Some dislike him. Some respect him. Few love him.
everyone that I know who actually played baseball and talk to in real life agrees that he guy isn't that great
quote:No
he's leading our program into the shitter
quote:Winning in the SEC is what's currently keeping PM his job. He's doing that and getting National seeds. He's not going to be asked to leave ever if that continues.
why would we care if we lost a baseball coach whose only recent accomplishments are winning 45 games a year mainly due to perpetually weak scheduling and going deep into the SEC tournament, which isn't an accomplishment considering the fact that most teams who already have national seeds locked up don't really try in the SEC tournament.
quote:Calm down nancy. I've got no problem with diversity around here. You shouldn't either.
I can guarantee that there isn't a single tiger rant baseball genius who sucks Mainieri off daily who can actually begin to say what his strengths and weaknesses are technically as a coach
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:38 pm to ell_13
Who has a better stadium/atmosphere? How many other programs can draw high round draft picks?
quote:Wonder why
Hasn't been for years.
quote:Look, another classic ranter argument that I've seen all season. Because the fact that we're starting the Jordan boys and a bunch of freshmen isn't a recruiting issue or anything
I don't care who you recruit. when you have to replace 8 starters, you're not going to have high expectations.
quote:Great, we have mediocre expectations for our program. Winning the majority of your games in a currently weak SEC isn't impressive, most good teams don't have anything to play for in the SEC tournament because they're already national seeds, and being a national seed period shouldn't be considered that big of an accomplishment unless we're doing something with it, which we aren't. I really don't understand why the people on this board are fighting so hard to normalize mediocrity in a program that shouldn't be mediocre. There are many, many, many coaches in the country who could be doing exactly what Maineri's doing at LSU. Sorry for pointing that out, I'm sure you and the rest of the crew who spammed this board all baseball season and rabidly went after anyone who dares to say that LSU baseball is currently boring and meh are going to go irate and and agree about how our program isn't going from great to mediocre right before our eyes
Winning in the SEC is what's currently keeping PM his job. He's doing that and getting National seeds. He's not going to be asked to leave ever if that continues.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:42 pm to LSUgrad08112
quote:You just joined TigerDroppings a month ago.
who spammed this board all baseball season
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:43 pm to LSUgrad08112
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win multiple national titles in a 10 year span, and we should have a coach who can give us that
Technically, the jury is still out on whether or not Mainieri can/will do this.
quote:Have we not been competitive?
Not saying that we should win every year, but we should at least be competitive most years.
quote:Yep, because coaches always love to go to a school where they just fired a guy who, by the numbers, was a very good coach.
We can easily hire great coaches away from other programs without much of a fight.
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Gladly, why don't you go first though.
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It's a pretty well known fact to anyone who's ever been involved with baseball that WAY more kids are signing with MLB teams out of high school in recent years than 2005-1960.
Twice you failed to provide evidence for or back up your argument. The burden of proof for your arguments are on you, not me.
quote:The context was pretty clear. It's not like I manipulated a quote of yours. For example, had you said "I love to hate Paul Mainieri," and I would have quoted you as "I love Paul Maineri," that would have been out of context. I just showed you how your examples were poorly chosen and asked you to back up your arguments with facts. Which you did not.
take everything that I say out of context like you are in this post?
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:47 pm to LSUgrad08112
quote:You think the Jordans had a bad Sophomore season?
Because the fact that we're starting the Jordan boys and a bunch of freshmen isn't a recruiting issue or anything
quote:I probably have some of the highest expectations around here. Doesn't mean I didn't see this season for what it was. And my expectations changed as the season went on. I thought we'd be in Omaha.
Great, we have mediocre expectations for our program
quote:IDK, Russian. He doesn't seem to know me very well...
I'm sure you and the rest of the crew who spammed this board all baseball season and rabidly went after anyone who dares to say that LSU baseball is currently boring and meh are going to go irate and and agree about how our program isn't going from great to mediocre right before our eyes
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:47 pm to Sasquatch Smash
It's obvious he has the UT job, it's just how much he can try to milk out of Alleva to get him to stay.
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:50 pm to sicboy
I don't think he's a bad coach at all but it wouldn't hurt my feelings to see him leave either. I don't think we'll ever win another title under him if he stays here but he'll keep us successful.
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:52 pm to OchoDedos
I posted in another thread, but it prob fits better here:
If this was just announced, you have to think this answers the Mainieri question. Don't think Freeman is announcing this with an unknown as the coach.
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News: Cole Freeman will return to #LSU for his senior season, he tells The Advocate
If this was just announced, you have to think this answers the Mainieri question. Don't think Freeman is announcing this with an unknown as the coach.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:53 pm to lsugrad35
I don't think PM would express his plans to players during negotiations.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:56 pm to ell_13
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I don't think PM would express his plans to players during negotiations.
You think Freeman announces with rumors out there? I'm not saying it wouldn't happen by any means, just seems to me like if a player has a decision and the deadline to announce isn't immediate he would let things play out first. Could be completely wrong. The players see the tweets about Texas just like we do though.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:59 pm to jayrays
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if Maneri leaves bring Coach Robicheaux. Great coach imo.
I agree with this. it's amazing with rob does with a bunch of acadiana boys. imagine what he'd be able to do with LSU talent. for him to even have ull in the top ten is unbelievable. but.......the state is a true college baseball state.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:59 pm to lsugrad35
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You think Freeman announces with rumors out there?
I think clarity on the coaching at LSU was not as high on the list of factors for him returning as you think it is.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:03 pm to ProjectP2294
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I think clarity on the coaching at LSU was not as high on the list of factors for him returning as you think it is.
Fair enough. I'm not implying that its the only factor. I think guys generally like some stability though. Not knowing what happens to your entire coaching staff would be a factor for me. But again...could be 100% unrelated.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:10 pm to LSUgrad08112
So where was it that you got all of your baseball knowledge that you have finally decided to share with us? Please specify the years that you played there, also, if it's not too much trouble...
CPM is not the best coach in the country, but he has won a lot more games than I ever coached...I certainly don't agree with all of his decisions, but I am not taking any responsibility for W's & L's either...
CPM is not the best coach in the country, but he has won a lot more games than I ever coached...I certainly don't agree with all of his decisions, but I am not taking any responsibility for W's & L's either...
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