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re: Stop complaining about “fans” not ponying up enough money
Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:08 pm to mdomingue
Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:08 pm to mdomingue
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Congrats for supporting socialist ideology, I guess.
You people with this horseshite.
Newsflash: most college football teams represent state-run universities.
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:37 pm to Harry Boutte
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Congrats for supporting socialist ideology, I guess.
You people with this horseshite.
Newsflash: most college football teams represent state-run universities.
And? All NIL money is provided by private entities not part of those state-run universities.
Do you advocate for limiting what legal avenues of income a person has access to?
Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:53 pm to mdomingue
quote:The NCAA never limited anyone from earning anything. They only addressed eligibility issues within their organization as a result of its rules being broken. Somehow that became lost on a lot of people and that’s why we are where we are.
And? All NIL money is provided by private entities not part of those state-run universities. Do you advocate for limiting what legal avenues of income a person has access to?
Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:58 pm to Salviati
I stand by what I said. If the playing field is equal and competitive, fans will flock to games.
Do you go to games because you want to see a future NFL prospect? Or do you go because you love LSU and gameday is exciting?
I can count the number of times on one hand that I went to a game solely for the purpose of seeing a particular player. If you took every FBS P4 football player and put them in the UFL, nobody is going to suddenly run to get their tickets to see the San Antonio Brahmas versus the Memphis Showboats.
If you replaced every P4 player with FCS guys, you’re still going to TS, Bryant-Denny, etc.
Do you go to games because you want to see a future NFL prospect? Or do you go because you love LSU and gameday is exciting?
I can count the number of times on one hand that I went to a game solely for the purpose of seeing a particular player. If you took every FBS P4 football player and put them in the UFL, nobody is going to suddenly run to get their tickets to see the San Antonio Brahmas versus the Memphis Showboats.
If you replaced every P4 player with FCS guys, you’re still going to TS, Bryant-Denny, etc.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 5:28 pm to MOT
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The NCAA never limited anyone from earning anything. They only addressed eligibility issues within their organization as a result of its rules being broken. Somehow that became lost on a lot of people and that’s why we are where we are.
Fair point and it would resonate if the NCAA and their member schools were not making billions off of the activities of the same people who were restricted from even working at a part-time job off campus.
But it also points out that the NCAA absolutely bungled this from the day that the first NIL-related lawsuit was filed (vs EA Sports if memory serves). Some form of revenue sharing would probably have helped to mitigate this much earlier, especially if they followed up with rules that would make sense regarding eligibility.
Just my take on this. Restricting earnings based on eligibility is the same as forbidding it for many of (I'd say the majority) the players in question. That coupled with the lack of real enforcement on major programs all but ensured cheating would occur and be almost universal amongst the power players.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 5:32 pm to Geauxgurt
The truth always lies somewhere in the middle. Yes the players need to get paid. But you can’t do that if it’s gonna be the wild west. This is completely on the NCAA
Posted on 11/22/24 at 5:37 pm to mdomingue
quote:I’m fairly certain this was never the case. There were rules against no show jobs, or maybe some schools didn’t allow it because they required too match practice/film room time (which would be against the rules to begin with) but I’ve never seen anything in the bylaws that prohibited an athlete from having a job. Maybe it was added at some point and I missed it.
who were restricted from even working at a part-time job off campus.
But again, the solution was fairly simple. Don’t like the NCAA’s eligibility rules? Don’t play in the NCAA.
quote:If they bungled anything it was this. Selective enforcement of rules and allowing certain schools or programs to be untouchable.
That coupled with the lack of real enforcement on major programs
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 11/22/24 at 5:39 pm to mdomingue
quote:of course, but it was more like a booster buying a player a car or some clothes.
Amateur sports and real student-athletes have not existed for a century at the top level of college football or basketball for the most part. The ones who skirted the rules were every successful team, everyone. Even LSU.
Now, it's paying a player millions in outright cash.
This is NOT what NIL was meant to be.
And I hate what college football has become.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 5:50 pm to sheek
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Tell that to AYS’s Blake Ruffino. He was calling out LSU fans yesterday for not giving $50-$100 month to the Bayou Traditions. Even if LSU fans gave more money, we’re still not competing with Michigan and Texas money.
I will never give my money to LSU or NIL. It’s not my job to get top players on the team. If I had millions to billions I wouldn’t
Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:58 pm to atltiger6487
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This is NOT what NIL was meant to be
NIL was not meant to be anything, it is just a thing. Again the NCAA whiffed on how to handle the situation. However, I am honestly uncertain how they were supposed to approach it. But the wild west is a bad situation, I think.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:33 pm to Wabbit7
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I will never give my money to LSU or NIL. It’s not my job to get top players on the team. If I had millions to billions I wouldn’
Same here
Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:16 pm to Geauxgurt
They not getting getting another dime from me
I'll go to baseball games but outside that if it not on tv I'm not interested
I'll go to baseball games but outside that if it not on tv I'm not interested
Posted on 11/23/24 at 2:02 am to nicholastiger
And baseball lost money. So the football team paid for baseball to operate
Posted on 11/23/24 at 5:54 am to nicholastiger
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LSU bought a baseball team and won a natty It's where we are now
And about to do it again
Posted on 11/23/24 at 6:13 am to Madking
You know what Sal was eluding to and you are being obtuse. 
Posted on 11/23/24 at 8:26 am to TexasTiger08
NFL does not want 18-19 yr olds. That's why they have the farm system that is college football and now the UFL.....which if the current system continues is where this goes. Truly professional.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 8:34 am to R11
Like you have any money broke dick
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:04 pm to mdomingue
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And?
If you support LSU, congrats for supporting socialist ideology, I guess.
I'm just sick of you idiots constantly virtue signalling your anti-communism by trying to make everything about capitalism versus socialism. Give it a rest.
FYI, colleges have been restricting what athletes could earn since before socialism even became a thing.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:42 pm to Harry Boutte
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FYI, colleges have been restricting what athletes could earn since before socialism even became a thing.
Socialism predates college athletics and even LSU buddy. Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels wrote the Communis Manefesto in 1847. Charles Fourier (yes, the mathematician for my fellow nerds) wrote about utopian socialism in the early 1800s.
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I'm just sick of you idiots constantly virtue signalling your anti-communism by trying to make everything about capitalism versus socialism. Give it a rest.
It really is just more of a troll than anything else. If it weren't for people, socialism would be a perfect system.
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