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re: Spring Game QB takeaways:
Posted on 4/24/22 at 11:13 am to ForeverEllisHugh
Posted on 4/24/22 at 11:13 am to ForeverEllisHugh
quote:I don’t know what’s on the coaches minds and I’m not sure I agree with everything you said.
lack of precision in the quick game and that hasn’t changed.
But I absolutely agree with this statement so far.
Posted on 4/24/22 at 12:47 pm to ecb
quote:yea, we all really hated Jamarcus Russell when he was here.
You are always to prefer white QBs, the rant…
Posted on 4/24/22 at 12:50 pm to abellsujr
This QB battle is going to be tough call, but I trust this staff to make it and keep tweaking things as the season goes on, if necessary. The process and evidence-based mindset you can already see taking shape with the players is the product of a smart staff that’s going to make better personnel decisions than we’ve seen for a while.
I’m a Brennan fan just because he has stuck with the program for so long and came back when things looked really bleak a few months ago. There’s something to be said for that in this new age of NIL and easy transfers. However, I also think he’s facing one potential roadblock that no one here is talking about. We aren’t looking at a contending season this year and he’s only got one year remaining. I think the fact that this is more of a building year could play a role in who starts.
I don’t think this automatically rules Brennan out. However, I do think believe will become a bigger factor in the decision making process if he doesn’t separate himself and become the clear number 1 in Fall camp. If the race is still close at that point, there is something to be said for giving the starting job to a guy who you think is ready AND will be around for another season or two after to continue developing.
The staff may see this differently, but if they are looking to build toward being fully back to where LSU football should be in 2023 and 24, there’s a strong argument to be made that starting a guy who can be with you through that process is the right call.
I’m a Brennan fan just because he has stuck with the program for so long and came back when things looked really bleak a few months ago. There’s something to be said for that in this new age of NIL and easy transfers. However, I also think he’s facing one potential roadblock that no one here is talking about. We aren’t looking at a contending season this year and he’s only got one year remaining. I think the fact that this is more of a building year could play a role in who starts.
I don’t think this automatically rules Brennan out. However, I do think believe will become a bigger factor in the decision making process if he doesn’t separate himself and become the clear number 1 in Fall camp. If the race is still close at that point, there is something to be said for giving the starting job to a guy who you think is ready AND will be around for another season or two after to continue developing.
The staff may see this differently, but if they are looking to build toward being fully back to where LSU football should be in 2023 and 24, there’s a strong argument to be made that starting a guy who can be with you through that process is the right call.
This post was edited on 4/24/22 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 4/24/22 at 1:18 pm to abellsujr
Brennan is the starter
Idiot




Posted on 4/24/22 at 1:31 pm to abellsujr
quote:
I want all of them to stay.
But I really think Brennan would be taking too big a risk making a questionable decision if he did stay.
Think about it. Nuss stays and doesn’t get the job? Oh well. He has a shot next year. One of the three is guaranteed gone next year anyway. Daniels doesn’t get the job? Oh well. He’ll still get some snaps in certain packages AND gets another chance next year. Brennan doesn’t get the job? He spends his last year of eligibility on a bench as potentially the third string QB. It is a HUGE risk. And his chances just got smaller.
I read Damone's post as both will transfer before the season. Looking back, I'm not sure if that was what he meant.
My post was just that I expect at least one of them to stay this season. If Brennan gets the starting job I think it is likely Nuss sticks around.
Posted on 4/24/22 at 2:38 pm to mdomingue
Which brings me to my next point.
If you had to choose, would you choose:
Brennan for one year
Or
Nuss for 2-3 years
Even if you thought Brennan could give you a slight advantage for that one year. Until yesterday it would have been an easy answer. It’s not so easy anymore. The new transfer rules have reversed the old philosophies of starting the oldest QB. Or at least it makes you try to look at things from a different angle.
If you had to choose, would you choose:
Brennan for one year
Or
Nuss for 2-3 years
Even if you thought Brennan could give you a slight advantage for that one year. Until yesterday it would have been an easy answer. It’s not so easy anymore. The new transfer rules have reversed the old philosophies of starting the oldest QB. Or at least it makes you try to look at things from a different angle.
This post was edited on 4/24/22 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 4/24/22 at 2:50 pm to misey94
quote:I just noticed this after my last post lol. Exactly. It’s a legitimate question with the new transfer rules. Coaches may have to look at things a little different now.
I’m a Brennan fan just because he has stuck with the program for so long and came back when things looked really bleak a few months ago. There’s something to be said for that in this new age of NIL and easy transfers. However, I also think he’s facing one potential roadblock that no one here is talking about. We aren’t looking at a contending season this year and he’s only got one year remaining. I think the fact that this is more of a building year could play a role in who starts. I don’t think this automatically rules Brennan out. However, I do think believe will become a bigger factor in the decision making process if he doesn’t separate himself and become the clear number 1 in Fall camp. If the race is still close at that point, there is something to be said for giving the starting job to a guy who you think is ready AND will be around for another season or two after to continue developing.
Posted on 4/24/22 at 6:20 pm to abellsujr
quote:
Which brings me to my next point.
If you had to choose, would you choose:
Brennan for one year
Or
Nuss for 2-3 years
Even if you thought Brennan could give you a slight advantage for that one year. Until yesterday it would have been an easy answer. It’s not so easy anymore. The new transfer rules have reversed the old philosophies of starting the oldest QB. Or at least it makes you try to look at things from a different angle.
You can't even make that decision based on those two alone.
If we really think that Howard is everything we expected and that we have a 5 star QB coming in 2023, then pick the best one regardless.
So is having Nuss 2-3 years the best option if you think Daniels is almost as good, Howard is almost there now and will probably pass him by next year, and a new guy who may be SEC ready (unlikely, IMO) will show up in 2023.
Nothing simple about this situation but not a bad one to have

Posted on 4/24/22 at 8:14 pm to mdomingue
I guess I’m glad I’m not a coach
I keep forgetting that we have someone in charge who knows what they’re doing. I don’t think we really need to worry about the QB situation.

I keep forgetting that we have someone in charge who knows what they’re doing. I don’t think we really need to worry about the QB situation.
This post was edited on 4/24/22 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 4/24/22 at 10:28 pm to abellsujr
quote:
I guess I’m glad I’m not a coach
I keep forgetting that we have someone in charge who knows what they’re doing. I don’t think we really need to worry about the QB situation.
It's baan a while, hasn't it.



Posted on 4/25/22 at 8:23 am to lsufan0582
we can win games with 2 or 3 of them. Walker needs a year or 2.
Posted on 4/25/22 at 9:38 am to lsufan0582
Daniels is very electric with the football. I can't remember having a QB with his kind of speed. Jennings nor Jefferson were that quick or fast.
Posted on 4/25/22 at 9:43 am to IM_4_LSU
quote:
Daniels is very electric with the football. I can't remember having a QB with his kind of speed. Jennings nor Jefferson were that quick or fast.
Are you sure you don't mean Harris? Not sure anyone accused Jennings of being a speedster.
And, important to note that Jefferson wasn't as fast but was also much bigger. He could take an SEC hit.
Posted on 4/25/22 at 9:47 am to mmcgrath
Exactly. Relative to body mass (40lbs) Jefferson was just as "quick"
Posted on 4/25/22 at 9:47 am to mmcgrath
No I meant Jennings. I refuse to bring Brandon Harris into a thread after that Wisconsin debacle.
Jennings was brough in certain situations to run the ball in 2013. And was used to run in 2014.
Jefferson was bigger and could still move. But was not as electric as Daniels with the ball.
Jennings was brough in certain situations to run the ball in 2013. And was used to run in 2014.
Jefferson was bigger and could still move. But was not as electric as Daniels with the ball.
Posted on 4/25/22 at 9:53 am to lsufan0582
Brennan will get the start as of now. He has the most experience and that in itself will get him the job for this year. The only thing that could change that is if the staff decides they want to run an option heavy offence this year, then you get Daniels. Either way, excited to see what this upcoming season will bring. We can only go up from these last 2 seasons...
Also, most likely to transfer is Nuss. He's a great player and I guarantee teams are already calling.
GEAUX TIGERS!
Also, most likely to transfer is Nuss. He's a great player and I guarantee teams are already calling.
GEAUX TIGERS!
Posted on 4/25/22 at 10:01 am to IM_4_LSU
quote:Most WR's would look "electric" playing QB if no one was defending them.
Jefferson was bigger and could still move. But was not as electric as Daniels with the ball.
Since most defenses would "spy" Daniels and challenge him to pass, I doubt he would look all that great in a real game. Probably on par with Harris against Wisconsin.
Posted on 4/25/22 at 10:01 am to tigertank25
quote:
Brennan will get the start as of now. He has the most experience
Jayden Daniels has 3.5x as many pass attempts than Myles Brennan has in his career.
And another 300 running the ball.
Daniels has at least 5x as many total snaps in live-game situations at QB than Myles Brennan has

Posted on 4/25/22 at 10:06 am to Lester Earl
That's a great point. I guess I should revise that and say Brennan has the most SEC experience. In my opinion that means something, but to others it could mean nothing!
Posted on 4/25/22 at 10:06 am to lsufan0582
It's going to be either Brennan or Nuss when the dust settles. Both looked very good throwing the ball. The main knock with them is their lack of athleticism when the pocket breaks down. Personally I feel Nuss came away the big winner of all the QBs after this game.
Daniels looked good mainly when he is able to run. He HAS to have that option open to him...he just looked too wildly inconsistent trying to set back and deliver a ball to someone. A run-heavy spread option offense would be the best way he could thrive as a legit QB threat.
Howard looked every bit the freshman that he is. LSU is in trouble if he somehow ends up with the starting job in Year 1.
Daniels looked good mainly when he is able to run. He HAS to have that option open to him...he just looked too wildly inconsistent trying to set back and deliver a ball to someone. A run-heavy spread option offense would be the best way he could thrive as a legit QB threat.
Howard looked every bit the freshman that he is. LSU is in trouble if he somehow ends up with the starting job in Year 1.
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