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re: Some of the specific cultural "issues" Mari Fuentes-Martin finds troubling...
Posted on 4/6/16 at 9:41 am to LSU GrandDad
Posted on 4/6/16 at 9:41 am to LSU GrandDad
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it also may help LSU in future litigation when some idiot student dies of alcohol poisoning and mommy and daddy try to get rich off of it.
Bingo.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 9:50 am to Draconian Sanctions
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as a matter of fact I did
I also contacted my state rep.
If you're wondering, I'm the upvote
Posted on 4/6/16 at 9:58 am to denvertiger
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it also may help LSU in future litigation when some idiot student dies of alcohol poisoning and mommy and daddy try to get rich off of it
That's the SOLE reason for this. Preemptive liability protection. Freshman Mike gets hammered at a tailgate and does something stupid to hurt himself. 3 months later, Mike v. LSU is filed. Or Jennifer drinks her weight in jungle juice and ends up being the "crossbeam" in an "eiffle tower" at El Cid. After she gets off the phone with Rolling Stone, she contacts the lawyer to discuss suing LSU for allowing and/or promoting a culture of binge drinking and sexual assualt. We live in a society with an ever diminishing sense of self accountability for our own dumb decisions. LSU is just trying to protect themselves
Posted on 4/6/16 at 9:59 am to LSU GrandDad
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it also may help LSU in future litigation when some idiot student dies of alcohol poisoning and mommy and daddy try to get rich off of it.
Yes...this. I think all of this outrage is a bit over the top. LSU needs something on the books that shows they tried to prevent a binge drinking death the next time someone goes all "Ben Wynne" at a tailgate. In this world of litigation, one has to cover their arse. If y'all just leave it alone, it will probably go away in less than a week and things will be like they used to be.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 9:59 am to LSU GrandDad
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it also may help LSU in future litigation when some idiot student dies of alcohol poisoning and mommy and daddy try to get rich off of it.
You mean when they put regulations on drinking and bring in 3rd party vendors, etc. to control the drinking and have it directly linked to the university and organization? What if something happens to that same kid? Instead of the university previously denying any part, now they are directly connected.
All this is doing is creating more liabilities for the university.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 10:02 am to Alt26
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Or Jennifer drinks her weight in jungle juice and ends up being the "crossbeam" in an "eiffle tower" at El Cid.
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We live in a society with an ever diminishing sense of self accountability for our own dumb decisions. LSU is just trying to protect themselves
We have a winner. This guy gets it.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 10:04 am to More beer please
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You mean when they put regulations on drinking and bring in 3rd party vendors, etc. to control the drinking and have it directly linked to the university and organization?
exactly. liability for the drinking isn't the primary focus
monetizing tailgating is almost assuredly a primary focus
i'd imagine the "campus rape/title 9" issues are also up there (or at least the vehicle to allow LSU to turn tailgating into a money maker)
Posted on 4/6/16 at 10:08 am to GFunk
As a kid the family used to tailgate literally in the old Alex Box. And I've watched TS tailgating evolve into the best game day atmosphere in college football. It's only gotten better. Shite has happened, yes. But, big picture, with all the numbers involved over the years, the shite is actually a very small percentage of what goes on around the campus on game day. And she wants to come in & completely wipe out decades of TS tradition by trying to enforce her views on society and in the process, try & change our culture. However, aside from that, no tv'? Really? So, the students go to bars & watch the games there and.......drink. Tents down 1 hr before kickoff? So, no tailgating afterwards, students then leave earlier still to get to the bars post game. Where they drink. And, also add to the post game traffic. The LSU administration has already been working on destroying the game day experience at/in TS, more paid parking, restrictions on where free tailgating is allowed, commercialization of TS by selling every inch to company's ads. And now they want to try & change tailgating for students?
Posted on 4/6/16 at 10:12 am to Keltic Tiger
Every member of the admin that greenlit this nonsense should be ridden out on a rail. Time to clean house big time and only hire LSU alumni for these positions
Posted on 4/6/16 at 10:14 am to fr33manator
this is the board that created the March for Miles
sounds like it needs to organize its efforts towards another focus
sounds like it needs to organize its efforts towards another focus
Posted on 4/6/16 at 10:20 am to SlowFlowPro
Maria and F. King are tiger bait!
Posted on 4/6/16 at 10:27 am to More beer please
Maybe this is the precursor to alcohol sales in TS by first eradicating competition and minimizing sales to prelubed fans.
Regardless, flasks will still abound with 10 buck beer prices.
Regardless, flasks will still abound with 10 buck beer prices.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 10:28 am to Cs
I wish college kids were smart enough to understand exactly where all these SJW MORAL NANNIES that live to come up with rules and place restrictions on their lives come from. It's Cultural Liberalism people. It's this idea that everything needs fixing, that everything should be tinkered with and controlled, by well-meaning individuals who can make decisions much better for you, than you can make for yourself.The Left controls the cultural high ground, The Institutions (in this case LSU) and they find your principles, traditions and ideals to be loathsome and contrary to their Social Project. "Kids" drinking "irresponsibly" at "bizarre social events". Sounds highly DANGEROUS. We must CONTROL this behavior. We must save these children from themselves so that we can indoctrinate them successfully with our far better system.
If I could only get you to connect the dots and see how Liberalism is infantilizing American culture. Wherever liberals can find risk and imperfection, some liberal bureaucrat will find a way to regulate you and your behavior. Every time you want "free college", wear a fricking Bernie t-shirt, post some fricking inane liberal meme, you are emboldening the people who are restricting your freedom.They have thousands of ideas on how to "improve" your lives. Wake the frick up . Resist this shite. Have some balls. frick. Are you seriously going to play along with this Liberal Fundamentalist Do-Gooder bullshite?
If I could only get you to connect the dots and see how Liberalism is infantilizing American culture. Wherever liberals can find risk and imperfection, some liberal bureaucrat will find a way to regulate you and your behavior. Every time you want "free college", wear a fricking Bernie t-shirt, post some fricking inane liberal meme, you are emboldening the people who are restricting your freedom.They have thousands of ideas on how to "improve" your lives. Wake the frick up . Resist this shite. Have some balls. frick. Are you seriously going to play along with this Liberal Fundamentalist Do-Gooder bullshite?
Posted on 4/6/16 at 10:29 am to fr33manator
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Time to clean house big time and only hire LSU alumni for these positions
I wouldn't self-limit myself that much.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:04 am to Ash Williams
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Thy entire list could be summed up rather quickly by just saying "We need less fun"
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:06 am to fr33manator
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Every member of the admin that greenlit this nonsense should be ridden out on a rail.
Completely agree, if this policy is in any way considered I think it will be my breaking point with LSU.
shite is trending in a very bad direction with the leadership at LSU and in the state in general. This is one of the most asinine ideas I have ever heard, and the fact that it has reached a point to where its being considered shows the sad state of times we live in.
Being a long time donor to TAF, the Alumni association and my graduate program, I will happily stop making donations and end my relationship other than casual at home game viewing.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:14 am to LSU-MNCBABY
When our beloved Institutions are controlled by people undermining our way of life, why support those Institutions? There are so many other things I can do with my money.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:16 am to fr33manator
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Woman
"Ethnic" sounding name.
Problem with society, race, gender, religious beliefs should all be put aside. The person most qualified should be hired
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:23 am to LSU-MNCBABY
I'm sitting at home today mastur-bating and just thinking...
This woman has never worked in a school with football (her 3 years as the minority student recruiter at ND in the 80s notwithstanding). There's no way 20 years at all of the UT-Mexicos helped her understand these traditions and this culture.
This woman has never worked in a school with football (her 3 years as the minority student recruiter at ND in the 80s notwithstanding). There's no way 20 years at all of the UT-Mexicos helped her understand these traditions and this culture.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:29 am to Lsupimp
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The Left controls the cultural high ground, The Institutions (in this case LSU) and they find your principles, traditions and ideals to be loathsome and contrary to their Social Project. "Kids" drinking "irresponsibly" at "bizarre social events". Sounds highly DANGEROUS. We must CONTROL this behavior. We must save these children from themselves so that we can indoctrinate them successfully with our far better system.
You know that temperance and cultural homogenization are more conservative ideals than they are liberal ones, right? In fact, the tenets of cultural liberalism would abolish drinking regulations rather than strengthen them.
I get that we're all pissed about the prospect of curtailing one of our most proud and enduring positions. But why do you have to make it into a political statement?
Not everything you disagree with has to be made into a rallying cry against the "_____ establishment."
You can disagree with things based on the merits, or lack thereof, of the ideas rather than attacking them as some great conspiracy to advance a political agenda.
Basically what I'm saying is, this is a shite idea. So talk about the general shittiness of the idea and its potential harmful effects rather than making it political just because there's an election on.
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