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re: So if Kelly has not been fired nor suspended..
Posted on 11/12/25 at 11:01 am to Mo Jeaux
Posted on 11/12/25 at 11:01 am to Mo Jeaux
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Isn’t this speculation?
The offer he got values his mitigation for 5+ years at around $15M. If you earned $10M a year, that’s a deal.
So yes, it’s speculation but not unfounded. He wants flexibility because his current timeline would basically have to pay everything to LSU if he ever wants to coach again.
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 11:01 am to LSUFanHouston
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The ability to fire for cause must be backed up with actual proveable cause.
Ok?
Why would LSU give up that negotiating chip? Even if it’s borderline and would undergo litigation you keep that in your back pocket.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 11:06 am to LSUFanHouston
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Why is lsu negotiating if they have what they need to fire for cause? Because they either don’t have it or aren’t confident it will withstand trial.
Because they know it will be litigated and likely go to trial. If they pull that card, Brian gets nothing. They are attempting to meet in the middle, actually much more in Brian’s favor to avoid the thing he appears to be instigating.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 12:01 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Isn’t this speculation?
it's not speculation that Kelly wants MORE than what his current contract stipulates. getting his full payout AND removal of mitigation is more.
The speculation is WHY is he motivated to do this. The most obvious would be to coach again. i have not asked Kelly personally; so, i would not have direct intel.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 12:05 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
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it's not speculation that Kelly wants MORE than what his current contract stipulates. getting his full payout AND removal of mitigation is more.
Is that what he’s asking for in the lawsuit?
Posted on 11/12/25 at 12:05 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Why is lsu negotiating if they have what they need to fire for cause?
Because they either don’t have it or aren’t confident it will withstand trial.
Negotiating the end of a contract is what everyone does.
We don't know what LSU has or does not have. It conceivably would get even messier for all parties if whatever LSU has or knows is made public, which is why most settle these without big headlines.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 12:07 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Is that what he’s asking for in the lawsuit?
what do you think?
Posted on 11/12/25 at 12:08 pm to LSUFanHouston
It’s obvious LSU is just making threats to Kelly and Kelly is making it public. You can disagree with the threats, but it’s negotiating. Obviously he’s been fired or they wouldn’t be having the negotiations to begin with.
“Hey, take the 27 million because you shouldn’t even deserve that. We have cause and can go back and fire you for it since you were never fired properly in the first place.”
That’s what’s going on. LSU believes Kelly is asking for too much. It’s not in his contract that he gets a lump sum. LSU is not required to do so. They’re only required to pay him his salary every month. They believe that what Kelly is asking is too much.
“Hey, take the 27 million because you shouldn’t even deserve that. We have cause and can go back and fire you for it since you were never fired properly in the first place.”
That’s what’s going on. LSU believes Kelly is asking for too much. It’s not in his contract that he gets a lump sum. LSU is not required to do so. They’re only required to pay him his salary every month. They believe that what Kelly is asking is too much.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 12:08 pm to go ta hell ole miss
quote:They didn't hire an interim coach. One on staff was elevated.
hired an interim coach
Many places send home employees for in subordinance and elevate someone on staff to take their place.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 12:08 pm to LSUFanHouston
Don’t be surprised to see him on the sidelines Saturday.
If not we can fire him for cause for not showing up for work.
If not we can fire him for cause for not showing up for work.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 12:11 pm to geauxpurple
quote:Im sorry. I know that would be terrible. But also hilarious land awesome at the same time.
Don’t be surprised to see him on the sidelines Saturday. If not we can fire him for cause for not showing up for work.
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 11/12/25 at 12:12 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:Methinks you are getting "immediate", "temporary" and "final" confused.
I’m not told to clean out my desk if it’s temporary
Posted on 11/12/25 at 12:15 pm to abellsujr
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LSU believes Kelly is asking for too much. It’s not in his contract that he gets a lump sum. LSU is not required to do so. They’re only required to pay him his salary every month. They believe that what Kelly is asking is too much.
Yep. $43m is the “ceiling” for negations to start (present value of income stream).
If you want mitigation removed, that’s worth something too, so you’re going to have to come down off the $43m.
As others have said, I’m sure LSU is in no rush to settle for anything over $30-$35m… they’re probably fine paying the $800k a month. Let Kelly at some point get impatient for cash now and come back to the table. LSU has zero incentive to settle for a lump sum that doesn’t make it worth LSU’s while (a good deal for LSU in the $30-$35m range).
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 11/12/25 at 12:18 pm to mdomingue
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Kelly is simply asking that LSU clarify that his termination was not for cause and that if LSU has claimed it was, they have missed the window to do.
The contract doesn’t look to have a “window” of time to notify. All it says is in writing to him before the end of the contract term.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 12:21 pm to abellsujr
Don’t shoot the messenger. I was told:
1) Meeting was called day after A & M. Woodward”s marching orders were to get Kelly to fire Sloan to appease the fan base.
2) Kelly made it a 2 hour scream fest and refused. He even suggested he fire Davis. Said his contract said he could decide who was fired, not AD.
3) It became so confrontational, Woodward let him go due to insubordination.
4) Woodward reported what happened, and Landry freaked out.
5) Landry, who had a hard on for Woodward because of Will Wade stuff, then cuts Woodward’s legs in the press conference.
6) BOS scratching their heads because Woodward was never supposed to get fired. Can’t really say anything because Landry does have the power over them.
There are those that think Kelly acted that way with the intention of getting fired. He was checked out, and wanted to cash out. They are now negotiating the buyout, which is normal……but could get ugly.
Needless to say, a real shite sandwich.
1) Meeting was called day after A & M. Woodward”s marching orders were to get Kelly to fire Sloan to appease the fan base.
2) Kelly made it a 2 hour scream fest and refused. He even suggested he fire Davis. Said his contract said he could decide who was fired, not AD.
3) It became so confrontational, Woodward let him go due to insubordination.
4) Woodward reported what happened, and Landry freaked out.
5) Landry, who had a hard on for Woodward because of Will Wade stuff, then cuts Woodward’s legs in the press conference.
6) BOS scratching their heads because Woodward was never supposed to get fired. Can’t really say anything because Landry does have the power over them.
There are those that think Kelly acted that way with the intention of getting fired. He was checked out, and wanted to cash out. They are now negotiating the buyout, which is normal……but could get ugly.
Needless to say, a real shite sandwich.
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 11/12/25 at 12:24 pm to BBATiger
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Don’t shoot the messenger. I was told: 1) Meeting was called day after A & M. Woodward”s marching orders were to get Kelly to fire Sloan to appease the fan base. 2) Kelly made it a 2 hour scream fest and refused. He even suggested he fire Davis. Said his contract said he could decide who was fired, not AD. 3) It became so confrontational, Woodward let him go due to insubordination. 4) Woodward reported what happened, and Landry freaked out. 5) Landry, who had a hard on for Woodward because of Will Wade stuff, then cuts Woodward’s legs in the press conference. 6) BOS scratching their heads because Woodward was never supposed to get fired. Can’t really say anything because Landry does have the power over them. There are those that think Kelly acted that way with the intention of getting fired. He was checked out, and wanted to cash out. They are now negotiating the buyout, which is normal……but could get ugly. Needless to say, a real shite sandwich.
Honestly this would make a lot of sense.
I think they were preparing for a after the season firing but Kelly made it untenable
Posted on 11/12/25 at 12:24 pm to BBATiger
This makes the most sense of anything I’ve heard tbh.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 12:31 pm to bayouboo
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The contract doesn’t look to have a “window” of time to notify. All it says is in writing to him before the end of the contract term.
I actually think Kelly’s lawyers severely misinterpreted the 7 day cure window is the time they have to issue notice with cause. But who knows, maybe a judge would interpret it that way
Posted on 11/12/25 at 12:31 pm to OceanMan
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What am I missing?
That the separation is immediate, even though the two parties are negotiating to see if they can agree to terms that are different than those expressly given in the contract. A common practice, the idea is to find a way to reduce what the school owes by giving a short payout period and removing some other criteria, like the offset. I think you are right that LSU thought they could use the threat of cause to help themselves out, but they made mistakes in the process that very likely killed that possibility.
I think that LSU will clarify the firing to be without cause and settle in the 35-40 million range. Maybe slightly less, but doubtful any more than that. I'm basing that on absolutly no inside information or experience in this
Posted on 11/12/25 at 12:32 pm to go ta hell ole miss
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Point me to a single school who has ever pseudo fired a coach, announced a firing, hired an interim coach, played a game and then claimed they had not yet fired the coach.
LSU did not fire Kelly. The LSU statement uses the word "separation".
A firing would be a termination.
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