re: Screw Every “Fan” Not Giving Ensminger and O A Chance

Posted by Skillet

Member since Aug 2006

107279 posts

Posted on 1/12/18 at 7:53 am to oVo

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Hey Derek!

He's not Derek, and that's getting old. I bet you say "binder" a lot too....Try having original thoughts.

Posted by NoGeaux

New Orleans

Member since Jan 2004

5533 posts

Posted on 1/12/18 at 7:53 am to OTIS2

Yep. Agreed. I mean what 5 or 4 Star QB wouldn’t want to come be coached up by a career DL coach as HC, an OC that’s not been a full time OC since 1998 and a septuagenarian Passing Game Coordinator???

We coming!!!

Seriously will SE be the problem on game days calling plays or game weeks gameplanning? I doubt it. I think he will be good if not very good. SE is a good coach. So is Sullivan by the way.

Will we out-scheme Saban, Kirby, Jimbo, Richt, Mullen? Probably not.

Even if you believe we can outscheme one or 2 if those. No one believes we can with the majority of that list.

So if we aren’t out game planning them another means to an end is to out talent them.

That comes down to Recruiting.

If you are a 5* QB are you gonna hitch your future to a 73 year old Passing Game Coordinator and an OC who hasn’t been an OC this century? Honestly???!!!

Do you think it just might be possible that other recruiters from other schools will use that fact to negative recruit us?

Nope it’s not about giving it a chance. Although again I’ll say SE will do well calling plays. It’s more than that.

It’s about projection of the program. Do recruits trust their future to our staff.

It’s important and the visual isn’t positive. No matter how much of a chance you or I give.

Posted by Catman88

Baton Rouge, LA

Member since Dec 2004

49125 posts

Posted on 1/12/18 at 7:54 am to DontCare

So now we aee back an unqualified failure of a head coach that now only needs 1 top Coordinator?

How is it fake news that Orgeron got the job because he sold himself on being a leader and motivator that would be at a lower cost and allow LSU fo pay for the very best coordinators.

Is the new rally cry really now that Orgeron tried that and it didnt work so we will now pay top money for unwanted Coordinators that are buddies?

This post was edited on 1/12/18 at 7:57 am

Posted by drdoct

Atlanta, GA

Member since Oct 2015

1609 posts

Posted on 1/12/18 at 7:54 am to OTIS2

Probably everyone on this board has been a fan longer than Joe Alleva and F. King have been a Tiger fans.

THEY ARE RUNNING THE PROGRAM INTO THE GROUND and yet only true fans are the ones cheering THEM on. Sorry but their coaching searches and moves would have them both fired at any Div2 or JUCO in the country, they're that bad. Complete dumpster fire every time a decision is made.

And as people say, How do you dump $3m into an OC and then go and hire the guy who has been there the whole time? It's infuriating to have these dumbasses making decisions that tank the program I've loved all my life. If they were trying to hurt the program, I don't think they could do it worse.

So while our opponents are out there making moves to put real coaches into their program, we're out hiring Boudreaux and Bubba from the superette down in Gonzales. Does that mean they can't do the job? NO, but should a program our size be a training ground for them? NO. So go eff off with deciding who is a fan or not mr superfan.

Playing the lottery may get you rich, but it's the dumb way to try to get rich. Same with the coaching situation now.

Posted by WhiteMandingo

Member since Jan 2016

5569 posts

Posted on 1/12/18 at 7:56 am to phantom70815

No, it’s you people who suck that support every move LSU makes just because it’s LSU. You blindly follow them, and don’t question a damn thing. You are all Lemmings, and it just makes the problem worse.

People cannot separate LSU vs. The people. LSU will be LSU when coach o is gone, just like after dale brown and skip. You can love the school and not love everything it does or the people they hire. . Alleva did this by not pulling the plug on Les after the A&M game 2 seasons ago, now the fact that we have a coach who was and is Un qualified to be the skipper of a program this big is completely on him. Then to add insult to injury A&M makes a splash and gets Jimbo were screwed. He has ties to BR and recruiting inroads in sela just like Saban he will be poaching the vest of LA and who could blame a kid for wanting to go to an elite coach with skins on the wall.

Posted by Jester

Baton Rouge

Member since Feb 2006

34220 posts

Posted on 1/12/18 at 7:56 am to OTIS2

quote:
OTIS2

Kiss my arse, Otis.

Posted by epicopt116

Member since Nov 2017

1900 posts

Posted on 1/12/18 at 7:59 am to Jester

O is a buffer so they can pay off miles, then they might hire a championship coach. I just hope JA ends then also

Posted by GeauxTigers0107

South Louisiana

Member since Oct 2009

9704 posts

Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:00 am to OTIS2

Damn OTIS...you got 87 downvotes bruh. If your goal was to rile up the 'tards

Posted by S

RIP Wayde

Member since Jan 2007

155261 posts

Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:02 am to OTIS2

I’ll always support the players and Steve.

I can’t stand O and I HOPE AND PRAY this is his last year.

Posted by lsu2006

Member since Feb 2004

39978 posts

Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:04 am to OTIS2

Still waiting for someone to explain to me what it means to "give O a chance". Does it mean I can't react negatively to anything that happens? That even in the face of ample contrary evidence, I have to have unbridled optimism that O is the savior?

Posted by Topwater Trout

Red Stick

Member since Oct 2010

67589 posts

Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:05 am to drdoct

quote:
Probably everyone on this board has been a fan longer than Joe Alleva and F. King have been a Tiger fans.

THEY ARE RUNNING THE PROGRAM INTO THE GROUND and yet only true fans are the ones cheering THEM on.

I haven't seen one fan supporting these 2 guys.

Posted by Skillet

Member since Aug 2006

107279 posts

Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:09 am to Catman88

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So now we aee back an unqualified failure of a head coach that now only needs 1 top Coordinator?

Refresh my memory? O did well as the interim and I would not call last season a failure....You talking about his Ole Miss days?

Bill Belichick aka failure
1995---5-11
2000---5-11

Posted by Skillet

Member since Aug 2006

107279 posts

Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:11 am to Jester

quote:
Kiss my arse, Otis.

When all else fails, curse someone.

Posted by Catman88

Baton Rouge, LA

Member since Dec 2004

49125 posts

Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:14 am to Skillet

I love when these people compare Orgeron to Saban. Now they are comparing the man to Bill fricking Belichick.

Lmfao

Posted by Skillet

Member since Aug 2006

107279 posts

Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:15 am to Topwater Trout

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I haven't seen one fan supporting these 2 guys.

Never got an answer on this. How does the chain of command work? Who hires & fires F King?

Is the pecking order,

Governor
F King
BOS
AD

???

Posted by Catman88

Baton Rouge, LA

Member since Dec 2004

49125 posts

Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:17 am to Skillet

Governor or majority of the board can fire BOS member

Majority of BOS can fire F King

F King can fire Alleva

Alleva can fire Orgeron

Posted by Topwater Trout

Red Stick

Member since Oct 2010

67589 posts

Posted on 1/12/18 at 8:18 am to Skillet

I really have no idea. The way I understand it is Alleva would be in charge of anything in AD dept and the BOS would have to approve any contract/hire...but IDK