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GeauxTigerTM
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re: Screw Every “Fan” Not Giving Ensminger and O A Chance
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Funny that it started to suck when he got to LSU


I'd love someone to actually answer this question.

Since the new talking point is that Matt Canada was not good at football, when exactly did this happen? Did Orgeron hire him knowing this? Did Canada just start sucking arse when he landed in BR? Did he run something else everywhere else but decided to work up something extra special for us...that sucked?

Same goes for being a dickhole. Is that new information? Can;t be...because it seems to be well known information on here by those is support of everything Orgeron. So if it was well known...why act surprised when he behaves exactly as advertised?

Anyone feel like answering this?


UnAnon
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Member since Sep 2013
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re: Screw Every “Fan” Not Giving Ensminger and O A Chance
LMAO because a school like LSU settled with a 3.5 million dollar coach so we can get an OC that hasn't pieced together a scheme in 20 years


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Good Times
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TheLoneOFan
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Member since Oct 2017
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re: Screw Every “Fan” Not Giving Ensminger and O A Chance
They do suck .. we have a great recruiting class coming in and a great bunch of returning starters. Give me a chance. Go to the game. Cheer our butts off


nclsutiger
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Winston-Salem,NC
Member since Mar 2005
102 posts

re: Screw Every “Fan” Not Giving Ensminger and O A Chance
I will give him a chance but he's already on Strike Two. Screw this up and he's out. I'm not settling for mediocre. If you are content with the status quo, then you lack some serious ambition.


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guttata
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Member since Feb 2006
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re: Screw Every “Fan” Not Giving Ensminger and O A Chance
I get it. O wants to give his buddies a big payday before they are sent out to pasture. But don’t tell the fans that your plan is to hire the best cood in the country. Nobody made him say those words. He chose to say it. Ensminger is a great guy and bleeds purple and gold. Johnny Jones was a great guy who bled purple and gold too. Ensminger said he doesn’t even know what kind of system he is going to run. How in the world can a guy who doesn’t even have a system of his own in place even be considered for a job at a upper level D1 college?


TheLoneOFan
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Alexandria
Member since Oct 2017
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re: Screw Every “Fan” Not Giving Ensminger and O A Chance
Canada was highly regarded...period... he ran aversion of the wing tee...nuff said...sometimes you gottta recognize mistakes quickly


irnfan
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Member since Aug 2013
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re: Screw Every “Fan” Not Giving Ensminger and O A Chance
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They do suck .. we have a great recruiting class coming in and a great bunch of returning starters. Give me a chance. Go to the game. Cheer our butts off

Give me a chance
Was that a slip?????
This post was edited on 1/12 at 7:46 am


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Gus Tinsley
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Member since May 2008
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re: Screw Every “Fan” Not Giving Ensminger and O A Chance
+1000
These football and coaching experts (most of which have never played football at any level) amaze me with their wisdom and knowledge of the game.
Also, their language and name calling is a prime example of a 5' 6" 150lb keyboard tuff-guy who wouldn't have the stones to call some of these people those names to their face.
I met Steve at a camp in 1975 and can tell you he could probably kick some arse today. He was also a great player and I believe will make a good OC for the Tigers.
Give the guys a chance.


Stephen1979
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Member since Oct 2016
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re: Screw Every “Fan” Not Giving Ensminger and O A Chance
You're absolutely right. Orgeron is the head coach and this was his choice. So.....he and he alone will be responsible for the results. We can all agree not to blame assistant coaches or players right? This is his decision, got it loud and clear. No excuses, just accountability for the head coach. Fair?


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Spankem
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Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
887 posts

re: Screw Every “Fan” Not Giving Ensminger and O A Chance
Shame the Negatigers...they like that.


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Jack Daniel
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In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
12935 posts

re: Screw Every “Fan” Not Giving Ensminger and O A Chance
To be a fan, I have to be a ignorant follower and ignore all the negatives?


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Catman88
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Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
48417 posts

re: Screw Every “Fan” Not Giving Ensminger and O A Chance
When you are going to pay a man over 1 million a year for a job they haven't done in 20 years and a job they were not successful at 20 years ago.

Plus they will be running an offense they have zero experience with and that is completely different than their audition tape 2 seasons ago.

Fans giving him a chance is the least of your worries.


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DontCare
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Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
2165 posts

re: Screw Every “Fan” Not Giving Ensminger and O A Chance
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But when your head coach lies to the fans you have to expect the backlash.

Fake news.

O’s mistake was validating this narrative in the presser yesterday. When he said he’d get a top OC in his introductory presser, he then went and got the hottest name in the country. But it didn’t work out with Canada, so he elevated ‘Minger, who ran the offense pretty well last year (PPG increased substantially, yards per play increased, set the record for total offense in a game, twice set the record for RB yards in a game, etc.).

I am as surprised as anyone that ‘Minger was the choice, but he was a pretty successful OC last year and I’m interested to see if he can repeat that in ‘18. He was, after all, better than Cameron and Canada (an NFL OC and the hottest OC name in college last year, respectively). O is on the hook for this decision, though, and his job may be in jeopardy if he made the wrong choice.


WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
2807 posts

re: Screw Every “Fan” Not Giving Ensminger and O A Chance
Using your logic, why don’t we give you a chance?

Everyone deserves a chance right?


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Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
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re: Screw Every “Fan” Not Giving Ensminger and O A Chance
I'm talking to myself here.


Alleva and his embarrassingly lack of clout really messed up the Jimbo hire and even got temporarily owned by Les. Lots of these posters wanted an extensive search, Larry Fedora was even kind of a hot name at the time and Larry is much more qualified then O. O's history other than being a damn good interim coach didn't bode well for giving him the job.

After O got the job he immediately double talked about the kind of QB and offense he wanted...I think Lane Kiffin broke his heart. Ed did about as well as Les would have done last season, but sticking with a talent deficient QB all season was head scratching.

I like Ed, but he and Joe need to be on a very short leash, as in next season. Win all the games they're supposed to and go at least 4-2 against the good teams on the schedule, possibly 3-3 pending on if they are good games.

Oh, and I'm cool with Steve.



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oVo
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Member since Dec 2013
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re: Screw Every “Fan” Not Giving Ensminger and O A Chance
Hey Derek!


epicopt116
Member since Nov 2017
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re: Screw Every “Fan” Not Giving Ensminger and O A Chance
I gave O a chance last yr, I wanted O to succeed at LSU, I’m from houma!!! No one wants O to succeed more than us Cajun down in Houma. BUT, he couldn’t stay out of the way of an offensive mind, one promise not kept, he hired esminger, another promise not kept, why no qb commits this yr? If he is so confident in what he’s doing and what he has in esminger than why can’t he bring in a top QB?

I love O do death, he is truly one of us, but he is NOT a championship coach.


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Wayne Campbell
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Member since Oct 2011
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re: Screw Every “Fan” Not Giving Ensminger and O A Chance
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If next year we have an explosive and productive offense like we haven't seen at LSU in forever, would you consider Ensminger one of the best OCs?


Once he's actually begun to prove something, you mean? If the offense is explosive and productive like we haven't seen in forever, then I'll start giving him a chance. He'll still need to prove that it isn't a one-off. Ensminger's overall career as an offensive coordinator doesn't contain a track record of success.

As far as Orgeron is concerned, for years this board claimed that a trained monkey could win 9 games at LSU. So far he's only proved that he can't totally sink the program in 12 months.

As to actually "giving them a chance," I don't have hiring or firing power so what does that mean anyway. I don't plan to stop watching the games, and I will still try to make it to a few when I can. But my interest is definitely dwindling.


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GeauxTigerTM
LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2006
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re: Screw Every “Fan” Not Giving Ensminger and O A Chance
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Canada was highly regarded...period... he ran aversion of the wing tee...nuff said...sometimes you gottta recognize mistakes quickly


Elaborate.

We're being told now that his scheme was not good. Is what he ran at LSU different than what he ran elsewhere, and if it was not how can anyone act surprised by what he anted to run when he got here?

Same goes for his personality. either he was a known prick and we hired him anyway, or something that seems like common knowledge HERE was unknown to the powers that be at LSU who hired him.


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