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re: Scott Woodward was not responsible for Jimbo’s buy out. Love him/hate him this is not true
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:13 am to TaderSalad
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:13 am to TaderSalad
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He hired Jimbo initially and Jimbo didn't perform
performed well enough to get an extension and a raise from the next AD
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Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:19 am to Chicken
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He was responsible for $39million
Fair enough.
That’s a big difference. Compare that to Franklin and norvell.
Kelly was the 8th highest paid coach. If any of the other 8 have to be fired, I’m sure we are looking at similar money. You will find the contract is not as absurd as people are making it.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:22 am to TaderSalad
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I don't get the defense of an AD like Woody
The issue is not about anyone defending Woodward. The issue is that the governor made headline news talking about the hire and Woodward, undermining anything he does and making the job look like a clown show with political meddling. Any coach worth his salt is going to look at that and consider the job less because of it.
It’s fine to talk shite about Woody on a message board but what Landry did did major damage to this program and it’s hiring plans.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:26 am to bdavids09
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But he extended Ed after 2019
Don’t most coaches get rewarded after winning a championship?
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:29 am to ATLTiger
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Are you saying this as though it's a negative mark against Woodward?
It’s absolutely a negative mark against Woodward.
We have flushed $70 million in buyouts in 4 years.
Do you think anyone in private industry gets to keep their job after that?
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:31 am to IAHTiger
Hindsight is easy on the Jimbo hire
At the time, it was the right hire on paper.
I’ll catch flack for this but a part of me thinks with Jimbo’s history at LSU, he might have panned out had we hired him post Miles.
A&M at that time was not at a level to compete with Bama as a program
My .02
At the time, it was the right hire on paper.
I’ll catch flack for this but a part of me thinks with Jimbo’s history at LSU, he might have panned out had we hired him post Miles.
A&M at that time was not at a level to compete with Bama as a program
My .02
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:32 am to IAHTiger
Im pretty sure Woodward was told to hire Jimbo. At least thats the way the Aggies describe it. Not sure if it was a certain group of donors that wanted him or something else, but that is who Scott was told to go get and he did.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:32 am to Chicken
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He was responsible for $39million of the $75 million.
If A&M still fires Jimbo in year 6 then the buyout amount would have been closer to $30 million without the extension. I don’t see how you can lay over 50% of the buyout at Woodward’s feet when Jimbo coached over 50% of the original deal.
What also seems to be ignored in all this discussion is that the contract is approved by multiple people, including the board. Woodward hasn’t handed out any of these deals unilaterally.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:32 am to Adam Banks
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Do you think anyone in private industry gets to keep their job after that?
Pretty much every major banking executive after the 2008 crisis but your point stands
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:36 am to TaderSalad
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I don't care that he didn't extend Jimbo. He hired Jimbo initially and Jimbo didn't perform.
In his first 3 years at A&M, he went 26-10, finished 2nd twice, and won a NY6 Bowl.
After that year (2020), the positions at Auburn, Tennessee, South Carolina, and Texas opened up. The extension (which, again, wasn't by Woodward) was a prevent defense against him leaving for one of those spots.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:38 am to Samso
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The original contract that he drew up still had a large buyout WITH NO OFFSET - meaning Jimbo could get a new coaching job and still must get paid in full by A&M.
A&M has always done contracts like that, even before Woodward. They had the same thing with Sumlin. Woodward had nothing to do with Sumlin’s contract except firing him to hire Jimbo
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Also If Jimbo got fired under his original deal the buyout still would have been like $45M.
Nah. More like 30. He was paid 7.5/year. He got fired after year 6. 7.5 x 4 remaining years of original contract = 30 million
This post was edited on 10/30/25 at 7:40 am
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:39 am to dos crystal
Woodward's last two hires at LSU have been a disaster. Fool me once, fool me twice...
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:40 am to cas4t
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a part of me thinks with Jimbo’s history at LSU, he might have panned out had we hired him post Miles.
I think Tom Herman and Napier would have worked much better at LSU as well.
I think BK would have worked at Penn state.
But that’s the thing.
There are SO many variables that go into making a coach successful-knowing the local high school coaches, fitting in with said coaches and players, having the right recruit come up in your area early on, alumni buy in, SEC coaching competition,etc etc
That’s why going out and giving the biggest longest contract to a guy who’s formula worked somewhere else is a bad strategy. Not everything is transferable
Yet that’s all Woodward wants to do
This post was edited on 10/30/25 at 7:42 am
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:44 am to dos crystal
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Scott Woodward was not responsible for Jimbo’s buy out.
He was responsible for orgerons idiotic buyout
This post was edited on 10/30/25 at 10:59 am
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:47 am to TJG210
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He was responsible for orgeroms idiotic buyout
But we HAD TO!
It’s just what you do
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:59 am to Adam Banks
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I think Tom Herman and Napier would have worked much better at LSU as well.
Herman for sure, I am not sold on Napier at the SEC level. Herman likely pulled Burrow as well, since he was the guy who recruited him at Ohio State, and he had a good relationship with Joe and his father. It may have still ended up dropping off after JB, but I doubt as far.
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I think BK would have worked at Penn state.
He might still if he weren't being denigrated so much in the press right now.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 8:02 am to ATLTiger
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Are you saying this as though it's a negative mark against Woodward?
Yes. He doubled his salary and extended him, when his market demand was nowhere near that.
As long as we are calling out incorrect statements by our idiot governor, not a single tax dollar goes to paying the HC buyouts.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 8:04 am to mdomingue
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I am not sold on Napier at the SEC level
I think Napier would have had the local contacts and local booster buy in from his ULL days to be a consistent 8-4. Not saying a playoff berth but better
Believe I was the leader of the anti Napier brigade lol
This post was edited on 10/30/25 at 8:06 am
Posted on 10/30/25 at 8:16 am to Hoosyadaddy
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So the AD extending the contract of a NC coach was a bad move. I sure hope this is sarcasm
Burrow won that championship just like cam won in 2010 and not chizik
Posted on 10/30/25 at 8:46 am to IAHTiger
quote:People forget that Jimbo had A&M trending significantly upwards from where they were after his first 3 years. I doubt they are where they are now without what he did to build them up as a yearly recruiting machine. They got a yearly top 10 recruiting class with Jimbo when they only did that twice under Sumlin.
Scott brought Mr. Fat Cheeks to A&M.
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