re: Scarborough says basketball staff could be gutted except for McMahon .

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If Basketball has to suck for two or three more years for football to be back as a top 5 powerhouse it is worth it.

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What the frick does one have to do with the other?

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MM isn't going anywhere, book it!

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In that case, I hope we lose out and go 0-30 next season.

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But I'm hearing that Verge doesn't feel that donors are up for another big ramp up other than the obvious increase in NIL.

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Then LSU might have the dumbest collection of donors on the planet. Their plan is to invest a LARGER amount money into a failed coach? Hey donors...I have some great Blockbuster Video stock to sell if you are interested.

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And the other argument is that if Jalen Reed and Thomas stayed healthy we would be in the middle of the SEC right now and be in the tournament.

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LSU went 0-3 in the games Thomas was in the lineup. And the meteoric rise in quality for Reed by doing NOTHING more than being injured is ridiculous as it is illogical. Before his injury last season Reed was NEVER a consistently good player. He was always a player who was capable of big performances, but could never maintain that level. That was the case even in the 7 games last year before he got hurt. Yet, he gets injured and somehow he's elevated to the lost lynchpin to greatness.

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I see what a difference Thomas makes when he is healthy

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Based on what, exactly? LSU played two games against quality opponents in the non-conf. schedule. They were blasted by Texas Tech and had a good game vs. SMU. Thomas was also in the line up when LSU had to go to OT to beat an awful BC team and had to fight tooth and nail to beat Praire View. With Thomas in the lineup this season against quality opponents LSU is 1-5

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Any new coach is going to want more committed than what was given this season.

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That's not necessarily true...if you believe that LSU increased its NIL spending this year....which was last year's excuse du jour to explain yet another shitty performance by McMahon.

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Even the most robust estimate of what LSU spent on their roster was $9 million. For comparison, Kentucky allegedly spent $22 million on their roster. We have a long way to go to even be competitive with top SEC schools.

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A&M has new coach this season they hired from Samford. I don't know the exact figure A&M spent on its basketball team this season, but I'm quite confident it wasn't anywhere close to $22M. The current standings:

Kentucky: 17-9 (8-5)
A&M: 18-8 (8-5) *And by the way, A&M didn't have a single scholarship player from last year return to this roster.

The point is massive NIL spending doesn't provide a huge advantage if you have an inferior coach. For example, I doubt Auburn, after making it to the Final Four last season and for the second time in 7 years suddenly stopped giving a damn a about basketball. Yet, Bruce Pearl leaves and Auburn currently sits at 14-12 (5-8). Oh, an whatever money Auburn donors spent to build this roster it would have already been spent by the time Pearl retired in September.

Having a great HC is THE difference. END.OF.STORY. Which is why the constant excuse making and rationalizing for the worst HC at LSU in any sport this century, maybe any century, is mind blowing. I've resisted the argument that "LSU just doesn't care about MBB." But if LSU retains MM for another season, then that argument will unequivocally prove true. Hell, the fact that there is even a discussion that LSU might retain McMahon is insane.

Give me LSU with a solid HC and a mid-tier NIL budget over McMahon with an NIL budget the equivalent of the Knicks payroll.

The best example that posters here would recognize is Bama MBB.

I'm not doing their research for them again, especially TPK, but Bama was profiting LSU MBB type money each MBB season - ~$1-2 million profit per season. Bama finds a good coach and last season Bama MBB profited almost $10 million. That goes to fund other programs.

Did Oats get $22 million in NIL to start building the program into a huge money maker?

See, that's the problem when posters try to make the money argument. It starts with "It'll take $30 million" and then turns into "Spend the money elsewhere, might as well suck". And they think it's valid arguments.

Also, tighten the rims and don't have tired legs. Meee S-M-R-T.

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His reasoning was firing McMahon and his staff , hiring a new coach and staff plus money for NIL would cost around 30 million dollars and LSU isn’t willing to do that .

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It wouldn’t cost 30 million to do all that. McMahon would cost 6.5 to fire in April. You’re paying NIL regardless of who’s coaching so including that in the total is stupid. This isn’t football. Buying out the staff in basketball is peanuts comparatively. Paying buyouts to incoming coaches is also cheap. Head football coaches are cheap to buyout. Basketball coaches are cheaper

LSU is profiting 8-10 million less than they were under Wade and than what comparable programs right now are profiting. So they’re willing to lose 8-10 million to save the same amount? That doesn’t even follow financial logic.

Sign me up for less than these guys are getting!

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The Arkansas home game was a PR fiasco.

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We play much better on the road than home. Our last 4 home games have been flat out embarrassing.

How about we keep every assistant and fire McMahon. Or fire them all and keep tasman, Hornsby and Mitchell. Let them baws run it next year. At least it would bring Good vibes and excitement. I swear they could do a better job. Not only is he a terrible coach but he's wet cardboard.

That would be window dressing.