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re: Roy King is suing LSU

Posted on 5/3/16 at 8:12 am to
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10975 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 8:12 am to
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what grounds could he have?
Dudes and Dudettes -
Read Roy King's legal petition. Roy King's Suit Against LSU

One of the reasons he was fired is related to 'improper' stipends/scholarships for TGBFTL members (which includes Golden Girls and Color Guard). It looks like he has all listed LSU personnel hog-tied on that one alone (sections 5-8).

Not to mention nepotism -though that charge is somewhat nebulous (section 9 and section 29).

The $50K donation allegations can easily be corraborated by the donor, if they are willing to testify (sections 10-16).

Further, there is a little bombshell regarding a "wealthy former Golden Girl" and a proposed $500K donation intended for Golden Girl scholarships that was allegedly thwarted by the School of Music that is quite intriguing and,again, can be substantiated by the donor (sections 17-20).

Roy King's summary statement buttressed by claims in preceding sections (section 28).

Then the suit doubles way down and presents arguments regarding denial of Roy King's right to due process under LSU policies, illegal reprisal under Louisiana statutes, violation of First Amendment rights, and a demand for trial by jury(sections 41 through 63).


Man, if even half of this stuff is accurate, LSU really went out of it's way to screw this guy and will pay through the fricking nose - and probably a hell of a lot more than they were trying to squeeze out of TGBFTL to begin with...
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70248 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 8:41 am to
I'm only 15 pages in, but it seems like the secretary at the school of music sucks at doing her job.
Posted by SCTmo
Des Moines
Member since Aug 2007
2860 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 8:45 am to
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I don't care for how it throws the secretary under the bus.


I think the main thrust of that side of things is that the secretary was put in a position where she could not handle the workload (working for too many people, perhaps?). Pretty sure she's still a big supporter of Roy in this whole thing (or at least was immediately before the petition was filed).
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11203 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 8:48 am to
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Man, if even half of this stuff is accurate, LSU really went out of it's way to screw this guy and will pay through the fricking nose - and probably a hell of a lot more than they were trying to squeeze out of TGBFTL to begin with...



I'm all for Roy. But actually his grounds are pretty weak. This is more about airing dirty laundry than making a strong legal case

ETA: it does show how bad he was screwed over.
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 9:42 am
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10975 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:21 am to
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This is more about airing dirty laundry
If one of the main claims supporting his dismissal is that he 'improperly' handled the disbursement of stipends/scholarships to Golden Girls and Color Guards and if he can document not only LSU-approved policies and procedures going back to 1998 but his conformance to those P&Ps and his management's compliance and approval related to those P&Ps, that would most definitely NOT be 'airing dirty laundry'.

That would be exposing LSU administration witch hunt buffoonery.
Posted by Murtown
OT Ballerville
Member since Sep 2014
1607 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:44 am to
He made some federal claims in there, LSU can remove to federal court if they want.
Posted by Debaser
Houma
Member since Jan 2007
850 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:58 am to
Just finished reading Roy King's petition / suit.

King makes claims that seem very easy to to prove with corroborating evidence. If he proves his case, LSU is a sinking ship because the tone at the top is terrible. This would further erode the leadership's continued chicken little stance on budget issues.

If this is true - it is very sad for my alma mater.
Posted by Dusty Bottoms
Guadalajara
Member since Nov 2006
931 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:01 am to
Even if he accomplishes nothing else, he has totally exposed the School of Music leadership and their attempted money grab.

Agree with the OP's that if half of the allegations are true, the university and the leadership involved here look really really bad.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26267 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:02 am to
Just finished reading it

Talley is a disgrace, frick that guy
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 11:03 am
Posted by Dusty Bottoms
Guadalajara
Member since Nov 2006
931 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:02 am to
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If this is true - it is very sad for my alma mater.


Indeed.
Posted by rjokerlsu
Big Spring, TX
Member since Apr 2007
6887 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:05 am to
Thanks to all for the solid legal analysis. Without getting into any specific points already discussed, I strongly believe this will be settled out of court, like most suits are.

On a side note, when Pokey sued LSU, I said that would be settled out of court and a few insisted LSU should take that to court. I knew the school did not need that type of media coverage that would result, and of course, it was settled.

Obviously, the issues involved are different here, but it will and should certainly be settled out of court.



Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10975 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:31 am to
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I strongly believe this will be settled out of court, like most suits are.
Yup, no doubt.

However, there's always the chance of an outlier.

RK might want too go to the mat to defend and proclaim his honor. Again, the predicate for that would rely upon the righteousness of his case and the strength of his personal grit.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
39784 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:46 am to
Neck does not need to come back. We do not need to hear suck that tiger duck bitch multiple times in a game.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26560 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

Man, if even half of this stuff is accurate, LSU really went out of it's way to screw this guy


I have reasonable belief that it is.

quote:

and will pay through the fricking nose


I hope they do.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26560 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

Obviously, the issues involved are different here, but it will and should certainly be settled out of court.


It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Roy refuses to settle just to drag these asshats through the mud in the press.
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
3758 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 12:58 pm to
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LSU can remove to federal court if they want.


That would fair worse for LSU.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11292 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 1:01 pm to
This reads like my friend described working at LSU. Academics who assume everyone is less intelligent than they are and constant power struggles and drama.

He said periodically they'd encounter a boss who had no experience or skills other than knowing someone higher up.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17319 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 1:34 pm to
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Pretty sure she's still a big supporter of Roy


I agree and I suspect that she is willing to go on record in deposition. She clearly has an axe to grind as well given how she was treated over the stolen petty cash.

I was in TGBFTL a long time ago and I can tell you that the secretary is an important part of that organization. Forcing her to resign and threatening prosecution is bullshite. She should have sued them as well.

Words cannot express how disgusted I am at LSU and the School of Music. I would love to see the members of TGBFTL organize and have a public demonstration at the first home football game in 2016.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26560 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 1:54 pm to
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I agree and I suspect that she is willing to go on record in deposition


Oh without a doubt LS is in full support of Roy.
Posted by LSURoadEngr
Member since Apr 2016
28 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:02 pm to
I completely agree with you.

What did Talley think would happen here? That Roy would silently walk off with his tail between his legs and not fight to defend his honor and integrity?

I read the suit last night. Pretty shady alarming stuff in there. Anyone else think this will hurt Tiger Band recruitment?
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