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re: Proof the LSP video and diagram is in error.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:19 pm to BearCrocs
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:19 pm to BearCrocs
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Moscona is OP
I haven't even watched anything Moscona said about the incident.
I was mostly recreating what I wished someone had already done. That's how I found the inconsistencies in the LSP presentation.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 4:25 pm
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:25 pm to Thorny
Trust the math.
At 130 yards (This is almost 60 yards longer than Lacy's attorney admits the evidence shows he entered his proper lane of travel and 60 yards BEFORE the accident occurred) and traveling 70 MPH the time the gold truck had before a head on collision was 1.3 seconds. This is being generous to Lacy and assuming the truck was traveling 30 MPH.
At 80 yards, that's less than a second. Explain to me how Lacy is not responsible for the responses of those he was less than 1.5 seconds away from being in a head on collision with while he was passing 4 vehicles on a 2 lane road in a no passing zone.
At 130 yards (This is almost 60 yards longer than Lacy's attorney admits the evidence shows he entered his proper lane of travel and 60 yards BEFORE the accident occurred) and traveling 70 MPH the time the gold truck had before a head on collision was 1.3 seconds. This is being generous to Lacy and assuming the truck was traveling 30 MPH.
At 80 yards, that's less than a second. Explain to me how Lacy is not responsible for the responses of those he was less than 1.5 seconds away from being in a head on collision with while he was passing 4 vehicles on a 2 lane road in a no passing zone.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:30 pm to sgallo3
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The DA report
How do we know the DA report is accurate and the LSP report is inaccurate? I have not seen it addressed anywhere. What are the exact differences ? and has there been an independent review of both ? I know Ory is relying on the DA report for a lot of his points, but what if that is the wrong one out of the two
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:30 pm to Thorny
quote:OK, Matlock. CASE CLOSE!
I think the evidence I presented shows the holes in their conclusion, which would likely mean he would be acquitted in court.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:35 pm to JTA1985
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why did the funyon women have to avoid the gold truck if he pulled off the side of the road? she could have stayed in her lane and not hit anyone.
No one has shown she “had” to. She overreacted because she was following too closely and not paying attention. She likely looked from her phone to see her closure rate with the slowing down gold truck and panic turned.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:36 pm to Ice Cold
quote:1) Here is my analysis of the comparable fault to the death of the Veteran.
Has anyone heard the phrase "comparative fault"? More than one party can be responsible for a claim
K Lacy 66.67%
Funyon 33.33%
LSP/Others 0.00%
Why people blame the police instead of those who caused the actual wreck is telling. They can be accused of a flawed investigation, but Lacy initiated this, and Funyon concluded it.
2) Lacy's death is 100% on him.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:38 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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No one has shown she “had” to. She overreacted because she was following too closely and not paying attention. She likely looked from her phone to see her closure rate with the slowing down gold truck and panic turned.
Or she looked up and saw the truck halfway out of the road and a car coming head on, panicked and tried to swerve into the Dollar General immediately to her left.
Which is exactly what her statement claims. Terrible decision. Terrible driving because she was almost certainly distracted.
And yet
NONE OF IT EXONERATES LACY
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:39 pm to Thorny
It's already been found that the two cameras timestamps are not in sync. Therefore, you just wasted a bunch of time.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:41 pm to Swamp Frog x
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You get a car flying at you at that short of a distance and see how you react.
Just guessing but I would assume I would not turn into oncoming traffic head on if I was paying attention. I would have eat the rear end out that truck in front of me or took the ditch.
Why does turning into a head on collision to avoid a potential collision seem so plausible? Put self in worse peril to avoid potential peril?
JMHO, I think the Kia was “distracted driving” and never saw Lacy. The truck in front of her I am sure did.
No dog in this hunt. Just my 10k ft view of this.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:41 pm to RB10
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Or she looked up and saw the truck halfway out of the road and a car coming head on, panicked and tried to swerve
so she admitted she wasn't looking at the road? no wonder she didn't see anyone in front of her braking until too late
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:42 pm to sgallo3
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so she admitted she wasn't looking at the road? no wonder she didn't see anyone in front of her braking until too late
No waterhead. She never admitted to that.
That's what's called an assumption.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:46 pm to AaronDeTiger
quote:
It's already been found that the two cameras timestamps are not in sync. Therefore, you just wasted a bunch of time.
I did not use the time stamp from two different cameras, only one: the one showing the front of Go Bear's Chevron.
I did compare the location of Lacy's car in the camera that showed the collision to the location of his car in the other camera, and then used that time stamp to compare to the collision sound time stamp.
Hope that helps.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:57 pm to Thorny
Solid work. Looks logical to me.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:03 pm to RB10
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Or she looked up and saw the truck halfway out of the road and a car coming head on, panicked and tried to swerve into the Dollar General immediately to her left.
This is the part that bothers me most about LSP’s narrative though. Take a look at the diagram OP posted:
They show the gold truck all the way off the road right where the lady swerved out of her lane. Except we see this on the surveillance video:
That’s the gold truck turning into the parking lot ahead of the accident (entrance shown in the LSP diagram) 1 second after the wreck, or 1.5 seconds after the Kia swerved.
And this is where gold truck made that turn:
Red arrow is where he turns into the parking lot on video. Green arrow is where he would have had to go in order to get there from the place LSP says he was at the time of the collision. There’s just no way he gets back on the road and drives around the telephone pole in 1 second.
Meanwhile the first witness on the body cam footage LSP released explicitly says that the KIA had to swerve to avoid running into the back of the gold truck.
I keep seeing people say that it doesn’t matter, and maybe they are right. But LSP sure seemed to think it mattered. This was their press release after Lacy’s arrest:
quote:
As Lacy was illegally passing the other vehicles, the driver of a northbound pickup truck abruptly braked and swerved to the right to avoid a head-on collision with the approaching Dodge. Traveling behind the pickup was a 2017 Kia Cadenza whose driver swerved left to avoid the on coming Dodge Charger. As the Kia Cadenza took evasive action to avoid impact with the Dodge, it crossed the centerline and collided head-on with a southbound 2017 Kia Sorento.
When you look at that release, then you look at the diagram they released explaining their reconstruction of the accident, it seems that the gold truck swerving off of the road was a pretty key part of their case.
It also seems like if they had evidence supporting that key part of their case, they would have released it along with their rebuttal the other day.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:08 pm to Thorny
So why did that black guy stand there on camera repeating, unprompted, over and over - "It was all the green charger's fault". He saw the whole thing. Is he in error?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:08 pm to RB10
Maybe she didn’t see anyone in the left lane yet and that’s why she chose that decision if she was following the gray truck that closely. I’d be interested in heading her explanation.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:11 pm to lostinbr
quote:
lostinbr
The driver of the truck said he slowed down, pulled halfway off of the road and then into the parking lot.
Nothing in the diagram disputes that, and if he's halfway out of the road it gives more than enough line of sight for the driver behind him to see what's ahead.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:14 pm to tigger4ever
quote:
Maybe she didn’t see anyone in the left lane yet and that’s why she chose that decision if she was following the gray truck that closely. I’d be interested in heading her explanation.
Her statement says she was trying to make it to the Dollar General parking lot, which was immediately to her left. Literally 90 degrees left.
My guess, and it's just a guess, she was fricking around in her car when she looked up and saw the truck halfway out of the road and got a glimpse of Lacy's car coming head on. She panicked and immediately turned left, hitting the oncoming car.
Again, pure speculation based on her statement and what we know happened with Lacy and the truck.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:16 pm to RB10
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The driver of the truck said he slowed down, pulled halfway off of the road and then into the parking lot.
Can you point me to where he said that? Assuming we aren’t talking about the statement signed “refused,” anyhow.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:17 pm to lostinbr
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Can you point me to where he said that? Assuming we aren’t talking about the statement signed “refused,” anyhow.
Go watch the video of his interview. It's in one of the threads here.
He says he slowed down, but "never skidded or nothing" pulled to the side and then into the parking lot.
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