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re: PFF: Bo stuck to his guns too long, allowing State to rewrite record books
Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:06 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:06 pm to Lester Earl
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People are going to struggle to gain perspective after last year. We are going to see some wild shite on here in the coming weeks
pretty certain tRant would freak out about giving up 600 yards passing any year
and rightfully so
Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and now fans are already calling for the rebuilding designation again, after celebrating him allegedly reloading our roster like Miles could not. So that wasn't corrected either apparently.
How do you reload when 17 contributors go pro, then 7-8 more are not available from the summer depth chart?
You’re revisiting these narratives after that? After losing both coordinators & missing a big chunk of spring/summer?
I know you’re not that desperate to tickle your confirmation bias from a few years ago, are you? After 1 week bro? Really?
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You're not concerned that o has already regressed in his alleged philosophical advancement?
What, specifically?
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but that was basically Joe Brady, and now Brady has been replaced by a regression,
Anyone replacing joe Brady was going to be a regression
Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:10 pm to BilJ
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O may not have disliked Dave the person but he definitely always seem to resent him a bit, could have just been philosophical differences
In fairness to O, Dave got all emotional at his Baylor intro press conference saying how much O meant to him and that he learned more from him than any other coach he worked for. I don’t think there was any resentment, O would always say what a good man Dave was for what that’s worth. I do agree that whatever differences they had were purely philosophical rather than personal
Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:10 pm to Lester Earl
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Jay Ward and Evans were not even scheduled to play, per O
They shouldn’t be scheduled to play at any point this year from what I saw
Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:12 pm to Lester Earl
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How do you reload when 17 contributors go pro, then 7-8 more are not available from the summer depth chart?
Ask our annual competition in Alabama, the program that we were claiming we surpassed a year ago
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You’re revisiting these narratives after that? After losing both coordinators & missing a big chunk of spring/summer?
Our opponent had two new coordinators and had to install completely different offense with the transfer quarterback. That argument doesn't fly when we had the same offensive coordinator and a handpicked defensive coordinator after our coach was publicly negative about our defensive coordinator last year. O wants a four-man line and a man dominant D, well he got it Saturday
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What, specifically?
Brady's replacement
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Anyone replacing joe Brady was going to be a regression
That is simply not true. Brady was a revelation on this team with Joe Burrow. There are a lot of coordinators and offensive minds who are at his level or better. Instead we gave E more power again and hired a retread from the NFL instead of a young or innovative offensive mind. That's a regression, and I'm not sure if it's because O simply made yet another bad coaching higher, or it's because O is scared of having to make a coaching hire in 2021
Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:12 pm to Salmon
They had a poster asking what bo pelini’s buyout was like an hour ago
Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:14 pm to Lester Earl
we had posters calling for Aranda to be fired at halftime of the NCG so
Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:16 pm to Lester Earl
We're stuck with Bo for at least another year. That's one of the problems with the setup of head coach without his philosophy on the team who relies on mega coordinators to do all the analytical and philosophical work in running the team. It was one thing when we were paying Canada 1.5 million, but now we're paying head coach money for our coordinators and if we make a mistake we can't afford to fire them
Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:17 pm to Screaming Viking
I fear O may have meant those comments about the defense. But maybe it was the quality of the offense that really made the D shine
Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:20 pm to UpToPar
quote:To me this is the most spot on comment is this thread.
He didn't have to go zone every play. Just throw it in there every once in a while and keep Costello on his toes. Hell, you don't even have to go zone across the board. Just drop a backer in the middle of the field every once in a while to take the crossing route away.
We did none of that. Costello knew every time he stepped to the line he was getting man coverage across the board. With that scheme and a QB that knows how to run it, he knew exactly where to go every single play.
Bo's hubris that our strength is better than your strength is what cost us. Very Miles-esque.
Except for Ricks all have experience with zone concepts and the looks for Costello could have been mixed up with zone or hybrid zones.
Giving Costello undisguised man-man looks with an inexperienced Ricks and a one legged Ward, plus S's who seemed to be out of position often, was like a dream come true.
Add to that it isn't like we didn't know we'd be facing Leach. To not have zone at least practiced as a fall back option is malfeasance.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Ask our annual competition in Alabama, the program that we were claiming we surpassed a year ago
As good as they’ve been, Bama has never faced attrition like this.
And I don’t think it’s widely accepted that LSU has passed Bama.
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Our opponent had two new coordinators and had to install completely different offense with the transfer quarterback
Their transfer QB with 25 college starts under his belt was the difference in the game.
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There are a lot of coordinators and offensive minds who are at his level or better. Instead we gave E more power again and hired a retread from the NFL instead of a young or innovative offensive mind.
I didn’t love the hire but the structure remained from what was successful. In fact they doubled the salary for the passing game coordinator from last year. They added young “Brady’s” in analyst roles. So I mean if you want to talk structure is crumbling, that’s silly. If you didn’t like the hire, that’s separate from that. Because the actual structure remained in tact.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:27 pm to sunnydaze
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They shouldn’t be scheduled to play at any point this year from what I saw
From the summer the top 4 CBs were
Stingley
Flott
Vincent
Ricks
So yea, I mean those two guys were not really scheduled to play more than a few snaps probably.
shite, Evans wouldn’t even be on the team had Vincent not opted out.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:43 pm to FreddieMac
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LSU fans are being completely stupid right now.
Maybe – but still LSU D is not this bad.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 9/28/20 at 4:39 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:this.
Ed hated Aranda's Zone and wanted something more aggressive. I'm betting he didn't want to switch to Zone because of this. He wanted to prove his approach has validity.
Aranda won lotsa games.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 5:09 pm to S
Aranda would have played it like the Huskies..or pretty close to that.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 5:13 pm to CalTiger53
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LSU has too much confidence in their DBs. The group I saw on Saturday were slow, out of place, and didn't know how to tackle.
I actually see it differently, I believe the reason we kept blitzing is because they had 0 confidence in them and they thought the way to make them cover for less time per play was to get to the qb faster
Posted on 9/28/20 at 5:30 pm to CalTiger53
quote:Talk to Corey Raymond and Bill Busch about that....
LSU has too much confidence in their DBs. The group I saw on Saturday were slow, out of place, and didn't know how to tackle.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 6:33 pm to S
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Bo stuck to his guns too long, allowing State to rewrite record books
The only reason I can think of was he wanted to try and pull of the win and stick in man D the whole way thru. I appreciate it to a certain extent but, if your getting whipped, its time to make a change. We should have played a mix of zone and man. What bothers me most about Pellini is he didn't seem to know it was time to make a change in time to win the game. We had scored points to win. This one was on the D.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 6:34 pm to S
pretty concerning no adjustments made.
i think we will be better with Stingley, but would be nice to have a DC try to make adjustments.
maybe he did, but it didn't seem like it.
i think we will be better with Stingley, but would be nice to have a DC try to make adjustments.
maybe he did, but it didn't seem like it.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 7:35 pm to S
There's a reson Bo was where he was when we hired him.
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