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re: Pete Thamel weighs in on the state of the program

Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:35 am to
Posted by Bottom9
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Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:35 am to
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didn't work for Gene Chizik...he went 14-0 and was fired two seasons later. There is precedent.



And Auburn went to the national championship the year after firing Chizik so there is precedent for an immediate comeback for our new coach
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:37 am to
Give the keys to tPear until November
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11184 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:39 am to
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Lol Pete Thamel hates everything LSU.

This doesn't appear to be true at all, or he wouldn't have written this.
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The real star in Baton Rouge has always been the LSU job itself — the local talent so rich and the fan base so passionate that even Miles and Orgeron could overcome their coaching shortcomings and win at the highest levels.
Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
8752 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:41 am to
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The real star in Baton Rouge has always been the LSU job itself — the local talent so rich and the fan base so passionate that even Miles and Orgeron could overcome their coaching shortcomings and win at the highest levels.


Bingo.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12651 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:50 am to
I wouldn't call going big...Fisher, Franklin or Kiffin. That sounds like absolute cancer.

If Woodards other hires are any indication, I'm going to put my money on Dabo Swinney as the first call. Yes, Clemson isn't great this year, but I'm going to guess he gets first consideration.

What would be funny is if he called Saban, but he is too old and entrenched at Alabama. Dude is bigger than Bear now.

If I'm putting $100 on someone today, I'm going to tell you someone you're not suspecting...Brian Kelly.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7655 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:53 am to
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And guys like Napier won't be on the short list. Woodward is going big.



Who's big though?

Saban? Not happening
Urban? doubtful
Dabo?

Those are really the Big 3 in college football. Who else is a marquis coach?

Lincoln Riley? Don't want and he wouldn't come.
Kirby Smart? Not coming.

Matt Campbell and Napier aren't that far apart imo.
Is Kiffen really going big? Not imo.

I think you can rule out guys like Urban and Freeze. We're firing one coach partly because he has questionable moral character. Not going to sign up those hypocrites.

Maybe Brian Kelly - he has baggage too though. But LSU needs a taskmaster imo. No more of this bullshite rah rah crap.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15489 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:53 am to
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The real star in Baton Rouge has always been the LSU job itself — the local talent so rich and the fan base so passionate that even Miles and Orgeron could overcome their coaching shortcomings and win at the highest levels.


Bingo!

LSU makes stars of it’s coaches and we have 3 titles from our last 3 coaches to prove it .

Get us someone stable who can coach at least one position without assistance and we get at least another title while staying relevant each and every year.
This post was edited on 10/5/21 at 11:33 am
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7655 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:55 am to
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If I'm putting $100 on someone today, I'm going to tell you someone you're not suspecting...Brian Kelly.



I kind of agree.

LSU needs a no-nonsense guy that will instill some discipline and structure the program without the aid of some goon like Austin Thomas.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
45514 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:00 am to
And should have had a 3rd (2011-12) if the mulligan didn't happen.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
161533 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:00 am to
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This is the worst example


example of what you stupid frick? It's just an article
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12651 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:02 am to
I think it will end up being Brian Kelly if the job comes open. He makes under $2M right now. Besides the student incident, he runs a clean program. He is the type of hire Woodard seems to favor and has the personality that mirrors his last two hires...Johnson and Mulkey.

He hasn't been as successful as some others, but ND is not the same program it was 30+ years ago.

I think it's going to be Brian Kelly. I called the Jay Johnson hire. Maybe I'll go 2/2.
This post was edited on 10/5/21 at 11:03 am
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
32329 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:03 am to
My initial reaction to Kelly is repulsion, but he actually grows on me the more I think about it.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15594 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:04 am to
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The real star in Baton Rouge has always been the LSU job itself — the local talent so rich and the fan base so passionate that even Miles and Orgeron could overcome their coaching shortcomings and win at the highest levels.


This is something that all LSU fans need to remember. If 2 idiots can win national titles here, can you imagine what a powerhouse we would be if we can get a really good coach?
Posted by Jugular Joe
Member since Jan 2020
5138 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:05 am to
The buyout should be 17 dollars.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29417 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:06 am to
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Chicken


Fire up the board baw
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36988 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:07 am to
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If I'm putting $100 on someone today, I'm going to tell you someone you're not suspecting...Brian Kelly.


Five or ten years ago I would have agreed. He's 60.

Prestige isn't the only thing. I am hoping for a real search to identify a driven successful coach in his middle age with ten plus years of coaching in his future
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5033 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:09 am to
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When the pearl clutchers balked at Fisher’s gaudy $75 million deal, Woodward chuckled that he paid market value for a national title-winning coach. Expect him to do the same again, as Woodward won’t be Wal-Mart shopping for a hot assistant or a trendy Group of Five up-and-comer


That’s my fear, that Woodward will not take any chances, other than the chance that the national championship winning coach he hires for some astronomical contract ends up being as big of a bust as Jimbo has been at A&M.

Posted by penman
Member since Jul 2009
1458 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:11 am to
Justified then, and now.
Posted by denvertiger
Golden
Member since Feb 2007
4452 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:12 am to
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Lol Pete Thamel hates everything LSU. This is the worst example


Name one thing Thamel said that was bullshite?
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12651 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:12 am to
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Prestige isn't the only thing. I am hoping for a real search to identify a driven successful coach in his middle age with ten plus years of coaching in his future


That's not going to happen. Wooodard I'm guessing wants a steady, proven hand right now that can also win.

If you get 5-7 years out of Kelly, that's a win. We like to toss a coach over the side generally anyway around that time frame.
This post was edited on 10/5/21 at 11:13 am
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