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MEd LSU
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re: Paul Maineri is not the problem at LSU baseball


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moneyg
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re: Paul Maineri is not the problem at LSU baseball
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Baseball managers at every level make decisions during games that can easily be second guessed. It is the nature of the game.



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College baseball, particularly SEC baseball, is much more competitive. You don't see teams go to the CWS year after year after year.




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I expect LSU to be in a position to get to the CWS next year.



Disagree. Unless every pitching issue that is 50/50 goes LSU's way, I don't see that at all.

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It is frustrating that LSU did not get the the CWS. But, it is clearly not the time to throw CPM under the bus.


meh. He deserves some criticism. There are some real issues that need to be addressed. And, they are issues we've seen before (hitting coach, baserunning, etc.) These issues aren't fixed because Mainieri either doesn't know how to fix them, or doesn't want to.

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He'll be here for the foreseeable future


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vidtiger23
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Well, and I mean this as politely as I possibly can, you are a fricking idiot if you think this.

It is very possible to lose a ton in baseball and get to the CWS. It really all depends on how the team gels. We are also getting a ton back.


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GeorgeTheGreek
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Paul Mainieri is Smoke Laval with a game 3 win vs Texas. Time to call a spade a spade, folks.


This should be downvoted to death. Smoke was an absolute shite show. You may not like CPM, but he’s 10x the coach Smoke was.


LSUFanHouston
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Kentucky taking this attitude?


I'm glad you went here.

Kentucky basketball has had 3 championships in the same time frame LSU has had 6 baseball championships.

Kentucky Basketball has had 1 champ in the 2000s. LSU baseball has had 2.

Since 1999 (when SR began), Kentucky basketball has been to the sweet 16, 13 times. LSU has been to the SR, 13 times.

John Calapari has made the Elite 8, 7 times. CPM has made CWS. 5 times.

John Calapari has one natty and has played for another, CPM has one Natty and has played for another.

John Calapari has 6 SEC regular season champs, and 5 SEC tournament titles. CPM has 4 regular season SEC titles and 5 SEC Tournament Titles in 13 years.

Those are petty similar resumes, if you ask me.


Godfather1
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I expect LSU to be in a position to get to the CWS next year.


I expect that every year. It’s what LSU Baseball is supposed to be about.


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ProjectP2294
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Smoke was an absolute shite show. You may not like CPM, but he’s 10x the coach Smoke was.


Don't forget that Smoke tried to burn the program to the ground on the way out by narc'ing to the NCAA about stuff.


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BilltheTiger
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Member since Jul 2013
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Baseball managers at every level make decisions during games that can easily be second guessed. It is the nature of the game.

It's not necessarily the in-game decisions, it's the lack of preparation (coaching) that leads to poor in-game decisions.

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College baseball, particularly SEC baseball, is much more competitive. You don't see teams go to the CWS year after year after year.

Miss State has made it 4 years in a row with 4 different coaches. So a well prepared team can go year after year.

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I expect LSU to be in a position to get to the CWS next year.

They are always in a position to go, do you expect them TO GO next year. No reason to be that optimistic.

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It is frustrating that LSU did not get the the CWS. But, it is clearly not the time to throw CPM under the bus. He'll be here for the foreseeable future.

With that attitude, I guess he will.


I will say the same thing about CPM as I did about Miles, if your attitude is we might do worse, you will never do better.


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FightinTiga
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re: Paul Maineri is not the problem at LSU baseball
For the sake of the program it's time for a change


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ffishstik
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Member since Dec 2007
3342 posts

re: Paul Maineri is not the problem at LSU baseball
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Baseball managers at every level make decisions during games that can easily be second guessed


That has been the problem, it isn't that he makes decisions that can be second guessed, he makes decisions that are questionable WHILE HE IS MAKING THEM. Last night, prime example, there is ZERO reason to pitch to a teams best hitter with a gassed pitcher with two outs and a runner at second with first base open. That's baseball management 101 and he blew it. Again. It has become more the norm than the exception that he makes poor decisions in games.


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roscoe mike
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re: Paul Maineri is not the problem at LSU baseball
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Baseball managers at every level


...have not one left handed pitcher on the roster the entire season??

This in itself is inexcusable and borders being incompetent at your job.


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dnm3305
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I expect LSU to be in a position to get to the CWS next year.


Well, with that shiny ranking of no.1 to start this season, I fully expected LSU to be one of the eight teams standing at the end. So next season, when we are ranked as a preseason top 8 and miss Omaha again to go with our current trajectory, what will the excuse be then?


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Rjlebla
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re: Paul Maineri is not the problem at LSU baseball
Paul Manieri was a good coach at Air Force and Norte Dame. He was handed the keys to one of the premier programs in all of baseball, a program that in many ways, runs itself because of facilities, history and most importantly, it’s fans and the money they generate for it. I credit him for providing a spark to get out of the lull smoke had let it fall to with our last championship. But my appreciation for him ends there.

Since that championship appearance I think he’s used a lot of excuses for his team’s failures to win consistently at the CWS or get there at all. There were quite a few showings of no win or 1-win performances in the CWS and a finals sweep. You combine those performances with the team’s inability to win a super regional at home, now 3 times to lesser seeded teams and the years we couldnt make a regional or win on the road in one and its just not good enough for the standards that have been established and expected here. There are other programs in the SEC and around the country that are starting to do it better and more consistently. I think it’s time we go after one of them.
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Tigerbait357
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I don't like him,


Why?


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OchoDedos
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Tejas
Member since Oct 2014
11222 posts

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Paul Mainieri is Smoke Laval with a game 3 win vs Texas. Time to call a spade a spade, folks.


He's not even that. Smoke and Turtle got off their asses to recruit, Mainieri doesn't even do that.



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tygerphan
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LA
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243 posts

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College baseball is much more competitive.


Oregon State’s back-to-back nattys says hi.


johnfredlsu
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Member since Feb 2007
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re: Paul Maineri is not the problem at LSU baseball
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College baseball, particularly SEC baseball, is much more competitive. You don't see teams go to the CWS year after year after year.



I see someone posted that you won't EVER hear Duke or Kentucky say this about basketball. And you won't hear Alabama say this about football. And these sports are just as, if not more competitive (particularly basketball).

And I don't care if they don't actually achieve it. But the expectation is there. It's clear that the coaching staff needs a shakeup (even if it's not at the top).
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ffishstik
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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re: Paul Maineri is not the problem at LSU baseball
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You don't see teams go to the CWS year after year after year.


Actually, you do. Maybe not every single year, but consistently.

From a recruiting, facilities, resources and fan support standpoint, LSU is one of the elite programs in the country if not THE elite program. You expect an elite program to be able to regularly finish in the top 8, which is what is required to get you to Omaha. You absolutely expect to make the top 16, which gets you a regional.


stratman
Army Fan
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Member since Apr 2013
279 posts

re: Paul Maineri is not the problem at LSU baseball
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I expect LSU to be in a position to get to the CWS next year.


Based on what?



Um..based upon the fact that they are pretty much in a position to get to the CWS every year.


dukke v
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re: Paul Maineri is not the problem at LSU baseball
While I agree, this is not the 90’s..... now if you want to blame that on the current coach.... so be it.... BUT college baseball has changed so much over the last 20 years......


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