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re: Out of state tuition and room and board is about 50k per year

Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:17 am to
Posted by Surv1vor1st
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
1654 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:17 am to

is that really not enough money to play football

No! And you do know you can go back to college and finish your degree??? Your Athletic years are shorter than your academic years.
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
27062 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:54 am to
No point in arguing about it this will work itself out. I'll say high school kids aren't worth millions imo. They have not played a meaningful snap at a high level. The game will turn into complete shite in a few more years ...look it's already happening with the transfer portal money is already degrading the product. Kids will give less effort and not care because they got there million already and if you don't like the half assing they will transfer to another school where they can repeat living off their name they built playing 2a ball. Nil has already ruined college football, I'm not saying the players don't deserve some sort of living expenses stiphend because football takes most of their time but it should be equal across the board. The reward of trying harder and playing better than every one in the team is you get drafted higher and get a bigger pro contract. Everything woke turns to shite is the most true statement and has never failed yet.
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 6:57 am
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
22880 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:57 am to
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would you work for free if someone paid your lodging and health insurance?


Seeing as most people PAY that during their 4ish years in college, YES!
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
166258 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:01 am to
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Seeing as most people PAY that during their 4ish years in college, YES!

It's a silly point

NIL is what it is. Some people are just jealous they don't have the same opportunities.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
27943 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:09 am to
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Hey, you close-minded frick, we do value education.


Buddy, the worst performing areas for education are predominantly minority and low-income. That’s a fact. TONS of those kids are forced to work early, baby sitting siblings, getting pregnant early, etc. I could go on. Look at Louisiana’s ranking. Look at any inner-city district. Those are facts on paper. Percentage-wise, most of the parents/broken families/single moms want the cash when it comes to an athlete. Education is not as high a priority as it should be.

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Arch Manning and Quinn Ewers aren't playing for free.


Your point? NIL in theory is fine. Pay for play is shite. It’s pro football at that point.

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Is Dad supposed to keep working instead of traveling to watch his boy play?


This is one of the shittiest takes of 2024. The horror of having to work a job while your son plays ball. Underwood is the exception, not the rule. 99% of D1 football players aren’t getting enough money for daddy to retire. Poor daddy has to drive an hour to Ann Arbor to see his kid play. You do realize most parents of athletes don’t have the luxury of seeing their kids play every week, right?
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
27062 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:14 am to
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Is Dad supposed to keep working instead of traveling to watch his boy play?


This one made me laugh. Yes Dad is supposed to keep working it's called being a responsible adult which apparently is the lost value starting with millennials to the present day. It's ok our Gen X babies who were raised right will change the culture again in a decade or so. You see signs already
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
27943 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:15 am to
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is that really not enough money to play football No!


Sports ball is so important to you that you are putting these guys on a pedestal. They’re entertainers, nothing more, nothing less.

For years, we heard the complaints about these guys being modern day slaves. Guess what? They still are. Purchased yearly like cattle, as you saw the other day. Most of them are not receiving generational wealth. Sure, they can roll around in a nice car and impress some ladies, but $500K ain’t setting you up for life. MOST of these guys won’t star in the NFL, then what? Do you have an education?

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And you do know you can go back to college and finish your degree???


Again, is that the exception or the rule? I’d be interested to see how often this happens.

In basketball, HS kids used to be promised riches and wealth. For every Lebron and Kevin Garnett, you had 10 other HS kids put their name in the draft and not get the phone call.
Posted by scottyd
Member since Dec 2014
528 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:18 am to
Please explain how NIL or players getting paid is “woke” at all.

Posted by IntenseKid
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
3039 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:21 am to
Should there be a college draft? Like the nfl.
Lol
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
27943 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:23 am to
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This one made me laugh. Yes Dad is supposed to keep working it's called being a responsible adult


Blows my mind that he posted that question like it was some “gotcha”.

There’s over 120 D1 schools, and about 280 more programs in FCS and D2. That’s 400 schools total. You get 85 schollies in FBS, 63 in FCS, 36 in D2. That’s over 23,000 CFB players on scholarship. I assume the number of kids raking in a million is under a thousand. That means 22,000 moms and dads are working jobs during the week.

That doesn’t include non-scholarship players in lower levels.

Again, that dude can spare me the “poor dad” bullshite.
Posted by coachLSU
Member since Jan 2005
22583 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:26 am to
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Playing football and Taking PE classes isn’t work.


Spoken from someone who apparently knows little about D1 athletics
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
5558 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:31 am to
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That puts a 5 year scholarship at a quarter of a million dollars.

is that really not enough money to play football?


Players like Joe Burrow made far more $$ for their university than what their scholarship was worth

The folks trashing kids for NIL never seem to mention the millions upon millions that high level coaches and AD have been making for decades, it's been a multi billion dollar venture for a while now and the players are finally getting somewhat of a real cut of it.
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
27062 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:37 am to
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Please explain how NIL or players getting paid is “woke” at all


It's part of the woke culture, money for nothing or entitlement. Free education used to be enough, I get it football has become huge and a huge moneymaker for the university which is why I think players "where a sport takes up most their free time" should get some type of supplemental income to replace a job that they could have or should have while going to college. But everybody on the football team puts in the same amount of time they should all be paid the same, the reward of being better than everybody else working harder earning accolades which is seems to be not popular these days is you get a bigger and better contract in the pros when you're drafted higher because of your earned accolades. If people are dumb enough to keep paying high school kids millions then that's on them and good for them I hope they get bled dry for being that fricking stupid. It has nothing to do with jealousy, More power to the high school kid if he can get money from a retarded rich dude.
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 7:50 am
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41358 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:48 am to
It’s way more than that…they get, I assume, $25-35k in cash each year too, with that scholarship.
Posted by PigDog33
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2021
860 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 8:10 am to
Supply and demand you fricking dummies.

“Capitalism”

So much crying because LSU wasn’t good enough this year , not because y’all actually believe what you’re complaining about.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285297 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 8:12 am to
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Seeing as most people PAY that during their 4ish years in college, YES!


Most gifted students do not. Just like most gifted athletes do not.
Posted by mjax57
Vinings, GA
Member since Mar 2012
4086 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 8:15 am to
Film, weights, class, study hall, and practice. Did I miss the grueling schedule?

I know exactly what goes into it. It is 100x better than any “job” out there, since you all love to throw the word around. Nothing like getting an all expense paid plus a salary for playing a game.
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 8:16 am
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
92058 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 8:27 am to
I honestly don't understand how some of y'all can continue to live in the past and not understand that things change and evolve.

The old "scholarship" method was fine for decades when college sports (especially football) was not the money-maker it is today. These kids should benefit from the amount of money being generated. Now, does the system need to be tweaked - yes, and I'm sure it will be, but they had to start somewhere, and there are always issues at the beginning of something this big as they work through kinks.

Some of y'all will just have to come to grips that things have changed, forever, and that your idea of football in 1940, 1980, 2020, etc. is gone. Accept it and move on, or continue to wallow in your misery because "muh game is different"...
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
47053 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 8:50 am to
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Is Dad supposed to keep working instead of traveling to watch his boy play?

Holy shite
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16732 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 8:59 am to
I think you're smart enough to recognize the difference between allowing players to make some money off their name (which is what this all stemmed from), versus a free for all pay for play wild wild west where billionaires are influencing high school kids and schools are pandering for fans to help pay for teenagers.

I always thought the draconian NCA rules were shite, but this is not the way. Simply telling people to adapt with the new times is lazy and shortsighted. There are legitimate issues that need to be figured out if we want CFB to have some semblance of actual college athletics.
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 9:01 am
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