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re: Orgeron's First Team Meeting With Ole Miss
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:06 pm to timlan2057
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:06 pm to timlan2057
"Meat Market" - Chapter 4: ("Bebe - Part Two)
After leaving Miami in disgrace, Orgeron spent a lot of days sitting on his parents' stoop in Larose, thinking about all he had squandered. He says it wasn't the money or the lifestyle he missed, or even coaching those games on national TV. Instead, he says, he kept thinking about the drills he ran during practice, challenging his players to do better. He missed studying film with his buddies. Maybe most of all, he missed going into high schools and presenting himself as a Miami Hurricanes coach, knowing that statement put him in the hunt.
"I was really worried about him," says Arceneaux, his childhood pal. Football was everything in his life. And he was so devastated."
Orgeron dreaded the thought of having to go into some other line of work: "I really didn't know if I was gonna get another shot."
Then one night in March, 1994, Orgeron got a call from another old buddy, Henry Lafont, a lawyer in Larose who was a booster of Nicholls State, a 1AA school in Thibodaux, just 40 miles away. Lafont asked Orgeron what he was planning on doing.
"Henry, I got nothing," Orgeron said.
Lafont asked if he'd consider working as a volunteer coach. Orgeron said he'd take anything. The next day he got a call from Rick Rhoades, the Nicholls State head coach. Orgeron was back in the game. It didn't matter that he wasn't getting a penny for it.
Every morning, Orgeron got in his mother's old station wagon and headed out, arriving on campus at dawn. After the sun was down, he'd drive back to Larose. "I was the first one in the office and the last one to leave," he remembers. "It was humbling, but I was so happy to be back in a locker room again, putting on a pair of coaching shoes, and getting back out there on the field."
... After about a month with the Colonels, Orgeron told Rhoades he wanted to go on the road and recruit. Rhoades explained that Nicholls didn't have enough travel money in the budget. "Don't worry about that," Orgerong replied. All he needed was a Nicholls State golf shirt and he'd make do. He'd borrow his father's Chevy S-10 truck and pay for the gas himself. Rhoades game him a shot and assigned Orgeron the Lafayette area, Cajun country.
"I had to take some steps back to regain my career," Orgeron says. "And one of those steps was to prove I could still recruit."
On May 1, 1994, the first day of the year that NCAA regs permitted coaches to hit the recruiting road, Orgeron climbed out of bed at 5am. He hadn't slept much because he was so pumped up. He's been going over and over in his mind what he would tell folks when he entered their schools. He couldn't wait. His mother, awakened by her son's bouncing around the house, noticed that he couldn't stop smiling. "Why are you so happy?" she asked him.
"Because I'm getting the greatest gift," he told her. "Today, I get to recruit."
After leaving Miami in disgrace, Orgeron spent a lot of days sitting on his parents' stoop in Larose, thinking about all he had squandered. He says it wasn't the money or the lifestyle he missed, or even coaching those games on national TV. Instead, he says, he kept thinking about the drills he ran during practice, challenging his players to do better. He missed studying film with his buddies. Maybe most of all, he missed going into high schools and presenting himself as a Miami Hurricanes coach, knowing that statement put him in the hunt.
"I was really worried about him," says Arceneaux, his childhood pal. Football was everything in his life. And he was so devastated."
Orgeron dreaded the thought of having to go into some other line of work: "I really didn't know if I was gonna get another shot."
Then one night in March, 1994, Orgeron got a call from another old buddy, Henry Lafont, a lawyer in Larose who was a booster of Nicholls State, a 1AA school in Thibodaux, just 40 miles away. Lafont asked Orgeron what he was planning on doing.
"Henry, I got nothing," Orgeron said.
Lafont asked if he'd consider working as a volunteer coach. Orgeron said he'd take anything. The next day he got a call from Rick Rhoades, the Nicholls State head coach. Orgeron was back in the game. It didn't matter that he wasn't getting a penny for it.
Every morning, Orgeron got in his mother's old station wagon and headed out, arriving on campus at dawn. After the sun was down, he'd drive back to Larose. "I was the first one in the office and the last one to leave," he remembers. "It was humbling, but I was so happy to be back in a locker room again, putting on a pair of coaching shoes, and getting back out there on the field."
... After about a month with the Colonels, Orgeron told Rhoades he wanted to go on the road and recruit. Rhoades explained that Nicholls didn't have enough travel money in the budget. "Don't worry about that," Orgerong replied. All he needed was a Nicholls State golf shirt and he'd make do. He'd borrow his father's Chevy S-10 truck and pay for the gas himself. Rhoades game him a shot and assigned Orgeron the Lafayette area, Cajun country.
"I had to take some steps back to regain my career," Orgeron says. "And one of those steps was to prove I could still recruit."
On May 1, 1994, the first day of the year that NCAA regs permitted coaches to hit the recruiting road, Orgeron climbed out of bed at 5am. He hadn't slept much because he was so pumped up. He's been going over and over in his mind what he would tell folks when he entered their schools. He couldn't wait. His mother, awakened by her son's bouncing around the house, noticed that he couldn't stop smiling. "Why are you so happy?" she asked him.
"Because I'm getting the greatest gift," he told her. "Today, I get to recruit."
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:15 pm to timlan2057
That story is gold. Roid raging. The end of the story though is that Ole Miss won 3 SEC games in 3 years and 10 games total in the three years he was the head coach. Some coaches are good, but just not meant to run the ship.
I'd take him for a DL coach, but not as the coordinator because of obvious reasons. They just need to make sure to attach a police camera to him when he's out recruiting so we don't end up on probation with a 30-year bowl ban.
I'd take him for a DL coach, but not as the coordinator because of obvious reasons. They just need to make sure to attach a police camera to him when he's out recruiting so we don't end up on probation with a 30-year bowl ban.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:24 pm to timlan2057
Sounds like a train wreck. If he is hired I will support him. But I would never hire someone like that to work for me or represent me.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:51 pm to timlan2057
quote:
He then stopped and said, "One more thing. If any of you mother... thinks you can take me, you come up here and get a piece of me right now." He gave everyone an opportunity to come up and fight him and said, "That's what I thought," and walked out of the room. In another story, Lane was out passing with another player, and Coach O apparently ran up to him, tackled him, stripped the ball, and took off running down the field.
frick yea...
Even if our defense isn't good, they'll be aggressive, and have a personality. There is no room for being passive as a defensive lineman.
DL coach, or DC. Either way, let's give him a shot.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:02 pm to Choupique19
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Does that sound like the kind of guy that's going to be 50 seconds away from victory and stay in a 4 man rush and drop 7 into deeo zone coverage?
No, it doesn't. Still think CP is best choice for DC, but Coach O as line coach would seem to be a strong choice.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:02 pm to Bacon84
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Even if our defense isn't good, they'll be aggressive, and have a personality.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:04 pm to sunnydaze
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Do not want as dc
But as DL coach, recruiter, and motivator, I'm all in....
This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:07 pm to timlan2057
I also remember the way he treated Flatt. Kid had no line, was literally getting killed by LSU, and O tore him to pieces.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:20 pm to timlan2057
Love that shirt off man,y shite. One of the teachers at our local HS is also the guy who handles problem kids, bad asses, and others who has no respect or just won't follow some rules. He occasionally walks into the football weight room and tells the biggest dude to bench his max and then he gets on the bench and surpasses that. He will also jump in on a physical altercation and does what he has to do to get r done. I love that guy!
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:23 pm to Willie Stroker
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Sounds like a train wreck. If he is hired I will support him. But I would never hire someone like that to work for me or represent me.
Coming from Willie Stroker
The irony is strong
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:48 pm to sunnydaze
Coach O will but any team on probation or worse sooner or latter.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:53 pm to timlan2057
That excerpt was the dumbest shite I have ever read. I read it years ago but just now was reminded of how stupid it really is.
BTW, Orgeron was a miserable failure at Ole Miss. Apparently his motivational tactics didn't work.
I don't want him at LSU.
BTW, Orgeron was a miserable failure at Ole Miss. Apparently his motivational tactics didn't work.
I don't want him at LSU.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:54 pm to timlan2057
Didn't he finish his last season with Ole Miss going 0-8 in the SEC and blowing a 14-point 4th quarter lead in the Egg Bowl? Yeah, this is what I want. 
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:55 pm to timlan2057
Posted on 1/2/15 at 2:00 pm to Gmorgan4982
When this stupid shite got reported at Tennessee we as LSU fans all laughed at how clownish and dumb it really was and made fun of the Vols.
Now some desperate nimrods in here think its awesome and want this oaf to run our defense.
Man o man how desperate and lowly some of us have become.
Now some desperate nimrods in here think its awesome and want this oaf to run our defense.
Man o man how desperate and lowly some of us have become.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 2:19 pm to timlan2057
quote:
I'm going to walk out of here right now, and when I come
back in here, I'm going to have my shirt off, and I want everyone of you
mother... to have your shirts off too.
A&M fans are going to be so jealous. If they knew there was a coach out there that could get dudes shirtless, Chavis would still be at LSU
This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 1/2/15 at 2:23 pm to timlan2057
quote:
He then stopped and said, "One more thing. If any of you mother...
thinks you can take me, you come up here and get a piece of me right now."
He gave everyone an opportunity to come up and fight him and said,
"That's what I thought," and walked out of the room
Hire this guy please
Posted on 1/2/15 at 2:26 pm to SDVTiger
quote:
He then stopped and said, "One more thing. If any of you mother...
thinks you can take me, you come up here and get a piece of me right now."
If he is hired at LSU and does this, Danielle Hunter may walk up to him with his shirt off and Bebe will put his shirt back on real fast.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 2:40 pm to timlan2057
A good friend of mine was a walk-on LB at Ole Miss.
Told me O dips coffee grinds
Nobody said he wasn't a hardass crazy motherfricker. Would bring a good mentality to our DL. He is not a DC nor should we ever make him one.
Told me O dips coffee grinds
Nobody said he wasn't a hardass crazy motherfricker. Would bring a good mentality to our DL. He is not a DC nor should we ever make him one.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 2:56 pm to timlan2057
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He walked outand everyone, confused, started taking their shirts off.
Sure enough, O walked back in, bigger than alot of the guys on the team,
without his shirt on. He started yelling and telling the team that they
needed to get loud. He said, "When I point to this side of the room, I
want you to say 'Ole Miss.' When I point to this side, I want you to
say, 'Wild Boys.'" Standing there with no shirt on with every guy in the
room shirtless, started pointing to each side of the room. Half the
team would yell, "Ole Miss" while the other would yell "Wild Boys."
Apparently it got pretty crazy and guys started flipping chairs, yelling, and
throwing cooler across the room while chanting Ole Miss... Wild Boys.
He then stopped and said, "One more thing. If any of you mother...
thinks you can take me, you come up here and get a piece of me right now."
He gave everyone an opportunity to come up and fight him and said,
"That's what I thought," and walked out of the room. In another story, Lane
was out passing with another player, and Coach O apparently ran up to
him, tackled him, stripped the ball, and took off running down the
field.
This guy can't be for real.
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