re: Orgeron still the right choice.

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Why ever fire a coach then if they are never to blame

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If you want to see me turn on a regime with the quickness let them shite the bed in year three. I'm giving the man the same courtesy that I'd give any other coach in his position. Unfortunately most of you can't do that. He's got till year three and if I don't see quite a bit of improvement then I'll become very critical of the team. I believe that this was much more of a rebuild than people want to admit. From culture change to whiffs on talent.

That being said I'm confident that the team will continue to improve.

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Fisher just beat Orgeron

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7 overtimes is like a draw.

Don't make it sound like an arse whipping.

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Fisher is killing it on the recruiting trail, unlike Orgeron.

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LSU 15 TAMU 17, 2 spots difference.

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Both of those coaches took over programs in much worse shape

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I quote Dave Aranda. We have more kickers on scholarship than Linebackers.

That says a lot about the state the program was in.

Miles didn't have a clue how to manage a roster.

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Once the local media gets fired up at the possibility of him being fired, you know the national media will jump on.

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the same national media that was actively trolling LSU fans with pictures of Miles saying "miss me yet?" in October 2017?

yeah, ok.

when Herman beats LSU first game next year. LSU would have lost their last two regular seasons games to the coaches that should have been here(with lesser talent). but people will say O is still the right choice.

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And Orgeron has shown an inability to evolve at LSU.

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Agreed

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come again?

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Last time I checked recruiting rankings top 4 are 1 Bama 2 A&M 3 Georgia 4 LSU

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Fisher just beat Orgeron and Herman is preparing for a conference championship this week. Both of those coaches took over programs in much worse shape than LSU, and Fisher is killing it on the recruiting trail, unlike Orgeron.

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Yup. I’m sick of this ignorance from some people. I have always stated no matter how they do at those programs, it would not reflect how well they’d do here. So even if they had flat out bombed.. it still doesn’t mean they’d have bombed here. They were both perfect matches for exactly what LSU needs, but we will continue to do it the hard way. Why make it any easier?

I don’t see any difference in LSU from before miles was fired and I don’t see any difference next season.

Last year had premature talk of 10 wins
This year had premature tall of 10 wins

I supppse with a bowl win we’d get 10 wins. I just feel LSU should be a 1 loss program right now and we are wasting away our opportunity of a very down SEC.. that should be improving soon with the additions of Jimbo to A&M and Mullen to UF.. at least making it more difficult for us since we play them both yearly.

I fully expect 3 losses next season. Even with a slightly more favorable schedule. Herman and UT is no gimmie (fwiw I had us easily beating Miami) and we will still probably drop one of the following, miss st, Auburn, Florida
So with Alabama, I expect three losses and not a ton of improvement.

This has always been my concern over O. Good enough to just get by. Win a game we shouldn’t, but drop a game or two we shouldn’t. It’s what he even as interim at usc and LSU. Keep in mind he took over extremely talented teams in both situations who already dropped games.

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If you want to see me turn on a regime with the quickness let them shite the bed in year three. I'm giving the man the same courtesy that I'd give any other coach in his position. Unfortunately most of you can't do that. He's got till year three and if I don't see quite a bit of improvement then I'll become very critical of the team. I believe that this was much more of a rebuild than people want to admit. From culture change to whiffs on talent. That being said I'm confident that the team will continue to improve.

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How long did the players have before you started crapping all over them

I am not making a sweeping assertion, nor trying to redirect. I get as excited as the next guy on N.S.D. with the projected rankings. However, my only assertion here is that we do not know the TRUE measure of a recruiting class until we have seen them play.

And, yes, I agree totally with you. Orgeron is not and has not been at the disadvantage, talent-wise, as some of these other schools. Despite all his excuses for not having talent at this position or that, he and Coach Miles are famous for being recruiters and he was recruiting coordinator for two recruiting seasons before Coach Miles departure.

Each of those classes were fairly well-regarded, and many agree that LSU simply needed adjustment on the offensive side of the ball as there was and is talent here, already.

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This is where I'm at. O is the man for this job, and Aranda is as well... O has to hire a great OC and let that man do his thing thoigh.

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If O is the man for the job why has he wiffed on the OC hire —- the most important part of his job —- twice in 2 years.