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re: Orgeron on not interviewing potential hires

Posted on 3/24/21 at 12:26 am to
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31013 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 12:26 am to
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That doesn’t seem like hating O? You are not that dumb.




Where did I say that? Where did I even agree with that?


It's a message board. People are going to voice their opinions and you may or may not agree with them.

Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31013 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 12:26 am to
quote:

Oh look all the fricktards are coming out now




Calm down, man. Yikes
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 12:31 am
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27222 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:03 am to
How would they not question it themselves.

The fact that he said that in public is embarrassing.

Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24333 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:25 am to
This is not about Bo. This is about staff members he had to keep from Miles staff - his peers...
Posted by lsutigermall
Plantation Trace
Member since Nov 2006
7301 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 1:32 am to
It’s coaching. Does he really need to interview Bo? His reputation proceeds him.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14899 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 5:13 am to
Well I can’t help you if you are upset that people are pissed that O failed to do his job. It isn’t our problem you can’t separate stupid stuff from legit stuff. O not interviewing people is something people should be pissed about.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14899 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 5:17 am to
That is an odd take on this. It’s pretty clear this is about bo and Linnaean
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
3336 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 5:43 am to
Woodward cmon you gotta have a leash on this stuff and especially don’t release it to the public
Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
10909 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 5:45 am to
It's also been pretty well known that Pelini was pushed BIG time by Woodward. So this whole cluster isn't just a reflection on O. It also shows Woodward read his newspaper clippings about hiring "the best" too much and pushed to hire this washed up guy then gave him top dollar.

Obviously Coach O should have interviewed him. But Woodward is also complicit with these piss poor hires.
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 5:46 am
Posted by Tigerik
Franklin, TN
Member since Mar 2007
1624 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:12 am to
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what the frick is pom and Thomas doing letting O come out and say things like this? why would you ever admit to not fricking interviewing someone?


I’m pretty sure that O didn’t check with them before he said this, and he likely regrets saying it, but how refreshing for someone to admit his faults and that he’s made mistakes that he’ll never make again. That is how you get better.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27829 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:20 am to
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why would you ever admit to not fricking interviewing someone?

Because he knows some will now say
“Why do you think it’s a bad idea for him to interview potential hires?”

Or

“He learns from his mistakes!”
Like clockwork, we’re up to 4 or 5 just in this thread.
quote:

how refreshing for someone to admit his faults and that he’s made mistakes that he’ll never make again.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158761 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:23 am to
This myth that Scott forced Pelini on O reeks of Ponamsky propaganda

O was fresh off an undefeated national championship season, no one was telling him who he had to hire.
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2739 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:30 am to
quote:

So you’re not a CEO fan????

He's not my favorite coach in the world,
quote:

TigerLunatik


Your post seem to be very pro Wade.
Coach "O" you stay on the fence mostly neither bashing him but not supporting him.
CPM does not seem to be your favorite coach either.

Big Question about coaching
Do you believe coaching at the college level is about actual on the field/court or about building an organization that fields the best talent and depth.

For instance next years basketball team may lose Smart, Watford and Thomas and obviously our best players and in my opinion losing to Michigan was more due to depth than bad coaching on Wade's part. So losing these players not only affects the talent on the floor but also the depth and let's all agree that LSU next season may be off unless incoming freshmen are amazing.

Do we fire WADE and all of a sudden say he is a bad coach because his recruits are so good they leave early to the NBA. Does WW seat get scorching hot

Was LSU last season 5-5 record due to poor coaching or the fact we lost 35 players off the 2019 championship team. My point is coaching at the college level is about the Jimmy and Joe's and same at professional level and pee wee sports.

You put Saban at Kentucky and he will not win a title for years, he most likely build a very good program but will be a while before he wins titles.

All 3 of our major programs are not broken and are competing at a high level.
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
10552 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:31 am to
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This myth that Scott forced Pelini on O reeks of Ponamsky propaganda


Yep...and let’s not forget O saying Pelini’s defense looked better than Aranda’s before the season last year. This idea that O didn’t want Pelini is pure deflection.
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25463 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:53 am to
I thought Ponamsky was the binder?
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14415 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 7:21 am to
quote:

It’s coaching. Does he really need to interview Bo? His reputation proceeds him.

Considering Bo hadn't coached a P5 defense in years and when he was at LSU was the last to arrive and first to leave I would say he probably did.

Watching the evolution of CFB offenses and knowing Bo was an old school coach I'd certainly want to know how he was planning to scheme against modern offenses.

Finally, Bo had a reputation as a volatile coach. There were enough red flags that due diligence was absolutely needed in his case.

Coach O and Scott deserve getting raked over the coals for this negligence. I give O credit for all the great things he's accomplished with the program, but this is pure dumb assery.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158761 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 7:35 am to
Under the CEO model it’s inexcusable to not have interviewed coaches. This is not a “hey at least he admits it and will get better!”
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57682 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 7:41 am to
Pops into thread...sees the usual suspects going after O...exits thread.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61824 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 7:44 am to
quote:

but how refreshing for someone to admit his faults and that he’s made mistakes that he’ll never make again. That is how you get better.




LSU pays Ed Orgeron about $7 million a year to not make mistakes a first year head coach wouldn't make.

This is not a "learn on the job" position.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56287 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 8:02 am to
I know we wanna slam him for this. But this kinda hire happens everyday. You have a person you know. You assume they will be a fit.

Not an excuse. But it happens all the time
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