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Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:10 am to GeismarGeauxer
It's not all about offense. Kramer Robertson is reliable defensively. And it's not like he is putrid offensively. He puts the ball in play almost every time. It just seems to normally go straight towards a defender. I can live with that a lot more than a guy who is striking out a significant amount of the time.
If you move Deichmann to 2nd, you get a lot worse at 2nd and you get a lot less athletic at 1st. I will sacrifice a little bit of offense to be as strong as possible with the middle infield defense and have a big, athletic guy at 1st.
If you move Deichmann to 2nd, you get a lot worse at 2nd and you get a lot less athletic at 1st. I will sacrifice a little bit of offense to be as strong as possible with the middle infield defense and have a big, athletic guy at 1st.
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Makes sense...let the guy that is hitting 0.083 start (that is proving for the 3rd time he can't hit/start) and don't start Romero (hitting 0.750). Slide Deichmann to 2B and Romero/Wofford/Adams at 1B. Are you aware the stats are publicly available? LINK quote:This is the way I would have the lineup based on what I've seen: 1. Duplantis RF 2. Freeman SS 3. Fraley CF 4. Beau Jordan LF 5. Deichmann 1B 6. Bryce Jordan DH 7. Papierski C 8. Lochridge 3B 9. Robertson 2B
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:18 am to Choupique19
Agreed. We got pitchers use them. Plus it's good to put them in the position to get one batter out or finish an inning. That's how you can find the closer type.
These starters get 5-6 innings in, they did their job. I don't think they are 7-8 inning starters except Lange.
These starters get 5-6 innings in, they did their job. I don't think they are 7-8 inning starters except Lange.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:18 am to ell_13
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Cape code all star. Hit really well in the fall and spring.
Pap doesn't have a college hit yet. Deichmann has 1. Maybe we should bench them too.
Cape Cod is not SEC baseball.
Pap is one of the best defensive catchers in the country and he did stroke two line drives Friday night, not sure if you noticed that. Also, you are carrying 2-3 legit catchers. You have about 10 infielders. And, catcher is a position where you value defense much much more than hitting (Ty Ross). Not exactly apples to apples here.
Deichmann has a total of 14 college ABs. He was hurt the majority of last season. In those 14 ABs he hasn't been stellar, but he's 1-14 with a homerun. So theres that.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:23 am to lsugrad35
quote:It's pretty obvious that Kramer allows people's high expectations for him and the pressure to affect his hitting.
there is no place for Kramer Robertson in this starting lineup. If you're going to go 1-12 as a Junior, we may as well play a freshman and let them go 1-12, but know that they can progress.
In scrimmages and in summer ball, he is an All Star. Hell, even in BP before a game he's knocking the cover off the ball hitting line drive after line drive.
When he gets in the batter's box during a game, his entire body language changes. His bat speed is so slow it looks like it weighs 10 lbs. and he lunges at pitches well outside the strike zone. He is desperate to get a hit.
Maybe Mainieri needs to do what Skip would do sometimes and send KR to a sports psychologist and teach him how to stop thinking so much and just relax when he's batting.....
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:27 am to ell_13
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Pap doesn't have a college hit yet
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:27 am to LSURussian
I agree Russian. I'm not saying Kramer is a bad baseball player or doesn't deserve to be on this team. I just don't see any reason that he should be starting or getting more playing time than guys that can perform on this stage right now. He adds value to the roster. He can give guys a rest when needed. He can pinch run and take the field defensively late in games. He's shown in Cape Cod and Scrimmages that he CAN play, however, you don't sacrifice in the hopes that after 2 years at some point this season it clicks for him. Get experience for the young guys and let him play his role on this team.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:29 am to LSURussian
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Pap doesn't have a college hit yet
Yea I'm assuming that he means this season since he played for us last year and had 9 hits one being a HR.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:30 am to lsugrad35
Kramer must not like PM, the pressure obviously affects him. With that said, he made the best defensive play in the infield this weekend.
Deichmann will still be the most projectable position player draft wise on this team, he has the tools.
Deichmann will still be the most projectable position player draft wise on this team, he has the tools.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:32 am to lsugrad35
quote:I don't think anyone should give up on him. He's one of the clubhouse leaders with all the new guys we have and we need him on the field, IMO. Maybe just move him down in the batting order to take some of the spotlight off of him.
I'm not saying Kramer is a bad baseball player or doesn't deserve to be on this team. I just don't see any reason that he should be starting or getting more playing time than guys that can perform on this stage right now.
If he's still hitting below the Mendoza line in a month, then maybe PM needs to reconsider starting him everyday but I personally believe he will relax and be an offensive asset before then.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:32 am to lsugrad35
Meant this year. Misspoke.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:34 am to ell_13
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Cape code all star. Hit really well in the fall and spring.
If Robertson cant produce in games for the third year in a row he's taking a seat on the bench, simple as that. We cant have an offensive black hole in a lineup that already isn't very good overall. Don't care what he did outside of games on the team, that's all that matters. His time is running short if he continues to have weekends like he just did, especially at leadoff. He needs to be moved to the 9-hole going forward until he hits his way out of that or finds himself a place on the bench.
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Pap doesn't have a college hit yet. Deichmann has 1. Maybe we should bench them too.
Now this is a retarded comparison.
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 11:35 am
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:40 am to thunderbird1100
The comparison was meant to be rediculous because it's a rediculous discussion. KRob will not light up the stat sheet. Who here really expected that? Pap hit the ball harder than anyone but has nothing to show for it. That was my point. KRob put 11 balls in play and just one hit.
Everyone here said all KRob needed to do last year was hit 0.250 and he'd be a lock at 2B because of his defense. But Foster gets hot and has to hit somewhere. Just how it happened. He was just a single hit away from the 0.250 mark btw.
Has he started off slow? Sure. But so has 80% of the team. Yet he gets all this attention as if we have a great hitter to replace him. If anything, this is the year he gets more cushion because our defense won't be as solid as last year and you can't hide Foster out there.
Everyone here said all KRob needed to do last year was hit 0.250 and he'd be a lock at 2B because of his defense. But Foster gets hot and has to hit somewhere. Just how it happened. He was just a single hit away from the 0.250 mark btw.
Has he started off slow? Sure. But so has 80% of the team. Yet he gets all this attention as if we have a great hitter to replace him. If anything, this is the year he gets more cushion because our defense won't be as solid as last year and you can't hide Foster out there.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:50 am to ell_13
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Has he started off slow? Sure. But so has 80% of the team.
KRob had a great Spring at the plate and there is indeed a chance that he has improved at the plate. He had one shitty weekend and that is all we can take from it at this point. The fact that he did not hit well his first 2 years has people concerned and I get that, but I am going to see what happens this weekend before I make a judgment on him.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:06 pm to Kim Jong Ir
quote:And I think some posters are forgetting that 3 days before the season started Robertson was having 3 teeth wired into place after a bad hop ground ball in practice almost knocked those teeth out. I'd venture to guess that many other players would not even have tried to play Friday and maybe not for the entire weekend.
He had one shitty weekend and that is all we can take from it at this point.
I heard Mainieri say the day of KR's injury that Robertson is one of the most competitive and toughest players he's ever coached and he had no doubt KR would play on opening night. And he said that while Robertson was still at the dentist's office having his teeth wired back into place and before PM got an update from the team's dentist.
And to the poster who said Mainieri doesn't like KR and that's why Robertson is feeling pressure, you could not be more wrong.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:38 pm to LSURussian
I think y'all are making excuses for him, oh he got in the face, oh he's putting the ball in play, oh he did bad but so did everyone else.
The reason he's getting destroyed in here is because of his consistent track record of lighting it up in Cape cod, fall ball and BP, and taking a dump when it matters during the season. This kid is a junior, and if he doesn't have his shite together now, we need to find someone who can contribute immediately or a young guy who needs to develop with in game reps. He doesn't have to be benched for a few weeks but I'm CPM I'll having my hands gripped on that leash pretty tight.
And I think the biggest crock of shite I've heard so far is putting the ball in play. This isn't little league you don't get on base consistently by putting the ball in play. You to put it in the outfield or contain lots of speed to beat out infield hits. His hits in his career are either a nice liner to the outfield or a 90% of the time dribbler to the infield.
The reason he's getting destroyed in here is because of his consistent track record of lighting it up in Cape cod, fall ball and BP, and taking a dump when it matters during the season. This kid is a junior, and if he doesn't have his shite together now, we need to find someone who can contribute immediately or a young guy who needs to develop with in game reps. He doesn't have to be benched for a few weeks but I'm CPM I'll having my hands gripped on that leash pretty tight.
And I think the biggest crock of shite I've heard so far is putting the ball in play. This isn't little league you don't get on base consistently by putting the ball in play. You to put it in the outfield or contain lots of speed to beat out infield hits. His hits in his career are either a nice liner to the outfield or a 90% of the time dribbler to the infield.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:41 pm to ell_13
Anyone suggesting someone be benched after one weekend is absurd. However, if KR or anymore else continues to struggle at the plate for the next few weekends then decisions will have to be made.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:44 pm to LSURussian
I agree with all of that Russian, but I think the poster speculated that KRob does not like Coach, which I also suspect is untrue. In any case, we need to give KRob more time. He's earned it.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:45 pm to MadtownTiger
quote:You would be a shite GM/manager in today's game. Every stat is analysed and given importance. We keep track of the balls that float in the OF for a game winning hit (Romero) and the scoarchers that get caught (Pap). It all means something to how good a player is doing along with his production. And then we can take that into context or use for comparison.
And I think the biggest crock of shite I've heard so far is putting the ball in play.
quote:False. But this is my point. People think they know but the numbers prove differently.
His hits in his career are either a nice liner to the outfield or a 90% of the time dribbler to the infield.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:47 pm to TigerCub
quote:Not gonna lie, I was so damn frustrated with Deichmann after game 1.
Anyone suggesting someone be benched after one weekend is absurd. However, if KR or anymore else continues to struggle at the plate for the next few weekends then decisions will have to be made.
But that's all I'm saying along with a few in the thread who have a better understanding of the game compared to the mouthbreathers.
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