re: Oline is more of an issue than the QBs

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Not unlike the off-season where all the defections happened

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and these defections are starting where? other than the one cat from tejas (who it appears was a bad apple and is out of football) none of the defectors were good enough to help the team out.

that's no excuse; it's a fact.

please tell us where these guys are starting now.

Takes both.

But, it's a venn diagram:

You can have an average QB with an awesome line and do good, sometimes spectacular.

You can have the best QB ever but without a good OL you'll never see it.

Without a versatile, solid across the 5, and anchored OL you might have good games, but not a great season.

The anchor starts at LT. Good OLs are built from the bookends, not the center.

It is obvious, we're still under construction. The consequences of "it will never be ready in time" on this particular project are quite severe.

The issue apparently is right tackle. If Traore continues to improve, they should consider moving Charles to right tackle to address the problem then work on depth behind them.

Another thought is have the tackles work one-on-one against the pass rushers. O has raved about Thorton, Cherry, and Scott. Use them to help improve that position.

If it wasn't that you were 12 years old and living in your parent's attic, I'd invite you over for a sonic to throw hands.

Do you believe that jumping off sides and holding can be corrected by coaching?

That was the biggest problem with the OL, according to Coach Orgeron.

Wouldn't naming a starting quarterback, so cadence would be consistent help remedy the problem?

Naming a QB would lead to a fluid motion of the Offense in general. It's totally about rhythm and chemistry.

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This is one area Bama has owned in games against LSU.

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bama has the best Oline year in year out. It's what you get when you are able to select the best star olineman recruits coming out of high school every year.


LSU is working with what they have and O seems to be working hard to put more emphasis in recruiting in that area ( the trenches).


we are solid on one side at OT with Saadiq Charles and I thought Magee looked pretty solid last year when he got on the field. Between Magee, Deculous, and Troare (maybe even Savage) we should be OK. We have plenty of good Guards. Cushenberry is probably not going be as good as Clapp (or maybe he will develop into a better one) but he is still a solid SEC level center and would be a starter on a lot of other SEC teams.

Nobody is bashing the players. We have some great young men on this LSU team, but we are up against one of the toughest schedukes in the country with a sub-par offensive line, no real QB and sub-par running backs. Those are facts my brother. If you can’t see that well then I don’t know what to say to you. That’s all and nothing more. We all wish it were different. It’s not

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Nobody is bashing the players. We have some great young men on this LSU team, but we are up against one of the toughest schedukes in the country with a sub-par offensive line, no real QB and sub-par running backs. Those are facts my brother. If you can’t see that well then I don’t know what to say to you. That’s all and nothing more. We all wish it were different. It’s not

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If you don’t think Saban could take this year’s LSU team and go 10-2 or better, you’re a fkn idiot.

The low expectations are all because O is an inferior coach and you know it.

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So deculus isn’t doing well? I don’t understand how we can’t recruit OT’s. Just like qb’s we cannot get them here no matter what.

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I wouldn't say "doing well". I'd say just not quite there.

I'll go ahead and say he's behind schedule. So it is not like it is all our impatience.

He has made big strides from what was some fairly poor outings as a freshman. Not terrible, but poor mainly due to inconsistency. So he is progressing, just not where he needs to be to be consistent in SEC play.

I'd say his biggest issue is inconsistency stemming from being unable to handle certain moves. Sometimes this stems from an offesnsive lineman anticipating what his opponent is doing instead of following his technique from stance to posture which would allow him to handle a multitude of moves/techniques.

An example: rusher keeps trying to go under your outside shoulder, 4 of 5 plays. Eventually you come out of your stance dropping a foot and leaning (posture bias) towards that outside immediately out of your stance. It's then he makes an inside bull move, you are out of balance, he sends you towards the sideline as he has a shorter and clear path to the backfield.

No matter what you think he may do, you come out with balance and a lack of anticipation. And that's where "first punch" comes in. Something Traore lacks (or did in his early videos). That first punch stalls or disrupts that first move (that you are not biasing against), giving you time to read and then adjust first your feet then your body. Those that adjust body first will lose some balance, and the DL will abuse you regularly.

So Deculus needs to adjust his mind first to follow his coaching and not anticipate and improve his first punch so he doesn't have to anticipate. And, of course, get stronger and drill those feet for footspeed (never ends for an OL).