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re: OK, what is going on with the running game?

Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:28 am to
Posted by Old Character
Member since Jan 2018
1313 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:28 am to
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You get the right player and your offense breaks records. Jayden was a special. Burrow was special. The play calls don’t have to be special when the guy with the ball is.


And you get the right scheme and play real football you keep your program in the top 10 for 10+ years. There’s only so many burrows/daniels. This is what the fans wanted.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
20928 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:40 am to
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It's a combination of things and it's not entirely the O line. It's scheme and personnel. Nussmeier is not an RPO type of QB, he's a passer who will run only as a last, and I mean, last option. Running backs are taking too much time in deciding where to run. Scheme is hurting and formation is telegraphing where the run if it's coming is going. If I see Taylor on a wing in a running situation, I'm thinking run


At least one other personon here gets it...

When Nicholls stuffs our runs it is not because we misjudged the talent of the entire OL and RB crew. Our scheme sucks. We are running a RPO with a QB who is not a RPO dude...

We are not playing smash mouth football
Posted by SeaBass23
VA
Member since Jul 2019
1711 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:56 am to
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We are running an air raid Rpo offense with a pro style qb. Our rpo option with the running back only involves runs in between the tackles. The qb is not a run option. Which puts more pressure on the interior run scheme.


I basically see two run plays. 1) HB dive behind the center
2) quick toss

I haven’t watch in slow motion but it doesn’t look like they are doing much pulling, stretch blocking etc. The run schemes seem very vanilla and look like the Eagles tush push every run.
Posted by Boudreauboudreaugoly
Land of the Rice n Son
Member since Oct 2017
2173 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:12 am to
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I ain’t arguing with a dumbass.


Then stop practicing your spiel in front of the mirror.
Posted by Lark225
Member since Mar 2019
1453 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 10:33 am to
There is none and hasn't been since cbk took over and that is an issue....history shows lsu with a high winning percentage win they run the ball for over 150yds or more. Every coach should know this upon entry and make running the ball a focus in lsu football
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
12559 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:14 am to
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We have to get the ball outside the tackles with more creative runs because it’s obvious at this point that they can’t run block like they can pass block.

We did some of this last night, but hardly any against USC.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
4913 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:42 am to
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The struggle this year is very difficult to understand other than maybe the blocking scheme and vision of backs does not compliment each other meaning: If Williams is a better gap scheme runner but our offensive line is better at zone blocking then its not a compliment.

True, but this just makes it all the more infuriating. Either we aren’t scouting to scheme, or we aren’t scheming to roster.

Literally what you pay coaches to do.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
19223 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:11 pm to
This is the most troubling thing I have seen about this team.

The defense is showing improvement

We have a punt returner

The passing game is legit

The punters have been solid, I was really worried about this


The running game has been awful
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
5786 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:16 pm to
The offensive line
Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
7866 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:18 pm to
Bo Davis is shite
Posted by Smokedawg
Finding Lennay Kekua
Member since Dec 2008
5535 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:39 pm to
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Davis is supposed to be a good OL Coach.
We haven’t been able to run the ball (-Daniels) since he’s been here…
Posted by TigerWatch
Metairie
Member since Feb 2004
3312 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:52 pm to
We have a run game????????
Posted by kew48
Covington Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
1309 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:57 pm to
Getting whipped physically.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
81970 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 1:21 pm to
Lol. We are not running Hal mummie air raid. You don’t need a qb to run to be able
To run RPO. THE read on a zone read and the read on a vertical rpo are NOT the same. Albeit the first play options on both those reads is a hb dive.
We also have horizontal RPOS like we did with DENBROCK. Different read than a vertical RPO.

Nuss has wnough mobility to run some
Zone reads to keep defenses honest.
Posted by Ready2Geaux
Member since Sep 2023
384 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 1:44 pm to
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We had Diggs but coach ran him off by wanting to split his reps with a mediocre running back Josh Williams


Having Logan Diggs wouldn't help this offense one lick.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61028 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 1:52 pm to
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Another issue that I heard Richard Dickson mention on Hannigrif’s podcast this week is we shift the receivers in tight and hence clog up the running lanes even more. He said this was a Denbrock carryover.


I'm not sure about receivers but we do it with tight ends and all of them struggle in run blocking so it's a net negative to do so. We'd do better to spread the defense out and attempt to run draws vs trying to power over them with tight ends.
Posted by Jacque Itchbad
Bay Saint Louis, MS
Member since Aug 2011
63 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 1:55 pm to
You need to realize how special JD5 is. Oline did not give up sacks because That Kid was running for tuddys.
LSU had 64 rushing yards against Nichols. This is a red flag.
This post was edited on 9/8/24 at 1:58 pm
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
12729 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 2:01 pm to
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We have to get the ball outside the tackles with more creative runs because it’s obvious at this point that they can’t run block like they can pass block.
Ask the Rant's GOAT OL Coach why we can't run block; not even against Francis T. Nicholls State High School.

Seriously, Nicholls Fricking State!

Just sit back and watch what happens now against the SEC! (What's going to miraculously happen overnight to make it better? )
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61028 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 2:02 pm to
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It's a combination of things and it's not entirely the O line. It's scheme and personnel. Nussmeier is not an RPO type of QB, he's a passer who will run only as a last, and I mean, last option.


I see this board is still confused about the differences between a typical RPO and a read option


Posted by reauxl tigers
Tiger Woods Fan
Member since Aug 2014
8742 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 2:05 pm to
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Our rpo option with the running back only involves runs in between the tackles.
my next question would be, do we not have any run plays in the playbook that involve the QB being under center?
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