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Posted on 3/19/21 at 12:14 am to RobbBobb
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His W/L record was the same as the guy before him
Is he the HC or OC? I'm confused. Usually wins and losses are on the head coach and not a coordinator. But whatever you want to use for your argument i guess.
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I'm pretty sure that it was Ensmingers offense, and he benefited from a Heisman QB as much as Brady. Both interestingly had down years, after they parted ways with Burrow
Explain the 2018 offense then. I'll wait.
Coach O basically admitted this offseason that it was Joe Brady's offense in 2019.
Posted on 3/19/21 at 1:05 am to RobbBobb
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I'm pretty sure that it was Ensmingers offense
Posted on 3/19/21 at 7:44 am to QB
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I have never understood why we didn't run the Brady offense last year. Why would you stop the best offense in LSU history. Ensminger was suppose to know that offense, from what we are told. I never bought that though. Brady was the brains. We didn't have that efficient of an offense before or after Brady. That tells me who's offense it was.
Because Myles, TJ and Max were not Joe Burrow. None of our RBs could replicate the versatility and agility of CEH and we hadn't found a legit replacement for 1st RD WR Jefferson or Belitnikoff winner Chase (until the last game - Boutte). We also didn't have a TE that could seal the edge and put LBs on their arse like Moss or even go a season with only one drop.
The 2019 team was a combination of veterans and talent with a great scheme. The talent and experience allowed the staff to take chances and be more aggressive. Inexperience mixed with no offseason doesn't translate into a smooth running offense. Brady likely could have been a more effective play caller, but he would have dealt with the same offensive inconsistencies due to those limiting factors.
2021 the talent AND experience is there so this season really is on the coaches to properly scheme. Outside of catastrophic injuries there really is no excuse this season for a poor performance.
Posted on 3/19/21 at 7:59 am to PsychTiger
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People on this board will panic about anything.
You mean participate in snap judgment and reactions without thinking things through or trying to understand what's really going on? Surely you're thinking of another board.
I'm pretty sure that the context of the statement is that Peetz's approach is to learn and understand. Instead of trying to dump it all out and start over, he's looking to mold and shape the offense around the players and the system with gradual shifts and tweaks to maximize the effectiveness of the offense. Want to know why Peyton was successful in Nola with Brees? He built his offense around #9 and his talents. Shaping an approach to maximize the effectiveness of the players is the right way to go. There is a ton of talent to work with and the system that is in place is familiar to Peetz.
Everything is going to be just fine.
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:03 am to QB
I wish joe brady was here last year just to prove to everyone that he would've struggled also.
Don't get me wrong joe brady's offense was great but it doesn't happen without those players.
Don't get me wrong joe brady's offense was great but it doesn't happen without those players.
Posted on 3/19/21 at 12:38 pm to HTX_LSU
That normally means he is not changing the terminology that the players are already using but instead is learning the nomenclature that they already know. Plays will be modified and even changed, I guarantee but the players will not have to learn a new play calling system. It was extremely difficult for skill players when Matt Canada came in because of all the huddle calls that had to be made for the different types of pre-snap motions. I have part of his playbook and it was a lot of new vocabulary for the players to learn. No more "Base right tight, 34 toss dive" type play calls that most of us old timers knew.
Posted on 3/19/21 at 12:45 pm to Chalkywhite84
quote:Well the vast majority of those players were there the year before and it certainly didn’t look as good
Don't get me wrong joe brady's offense was great but it doesn't happen without those players.
Posted on 3/19/21 at 12:51 pm to HTX_LSU
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Oh No! Peetz said he isn't bringing a new offense and is learning ours by HTX_LSU
Well, The offense didn't change from 2019 to 2020
The play caller changed...and we saw horrific play calling.
The SE apologist don't like to admit it, but it's true. But that's not surprising, as they defended SE offense/Scheme/play selection in 2018...
Posted on 3/19/21 at 2:05 pm to tiger25
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Explain the 2018 offense then. I'll wait.
Was that the first year Burrow QB'd a team? In the dominant SEC? I'll wait
Posted on 3/19/21 at 2:53 pm to HTX_LSU
Our offense was fine last year. Got to convert on third and red zone better
The scheme worked fine the execution sucked
The scheme worked fine the execution sucked
Posted on 3/19/21 at 5:52 pm to Penrod
quote:uh, you do realize that in 2018, we had Burrow, CEH, Chase, Jefferson, and numerous OL. In other words, 2018 was loaded with talent, but it was E's offense. And it was pedestrian.
We didn’t win the national championship because of our scheme. We won because we had the most talented offense in college football history AND we had a reasonably good offense.
Brady comes in, implements his scheme with that same talent, and it shoots to the moon.
Scheme absolutely was a major factor in 2019's offensive success.
Posted on 3/19/21 at 5:53 pm to OceanMan
quote:where have I heard that before???
The scheme worked fine the execution sucked
Posted on 3/20/21 at 1:37 am to RobbBobb
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I'm pretty sure that it was Ensmingers offense
Posted on 3/20/21 at 6:31 am to Chalkywhite84
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It was both.
If we would've had a more run orientated offense the results aren't the same.
Totally agree. But the advantage we had was talent. Bama, Clemson, Oklahoma and OSU had great schemes, but as loaded as Bama was, none had LSU’s offensive talent.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 6:38 am to Chalkywhite84
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It was the way brady used those 5 players as much as it was those 5 players. It was the perfect year
Regarding 2019, this is the main reason they were so successful.
Regarding everyone worried about Peetz learning the LSU offense.....freaking relax. There are no new routes. No new formations. Not many new route combinations. Definitely new ways to set up routes/route combos.
On top of everything else, Peetz has more time than the students (in theory), and he can use that time to learn the new vernacular. To me that is better than making the kids learn the new language.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 6:42 am to QB
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I have never understood why we didn't run the Brady offense last year. Why would you stop the best offense in LSU history.
You have to run plays your players can run. We were significantly worse at QB, WR, RB and offensive line. That “Brady”offense was fairly simple. We did not try to fool them with personnel groups. By the midpoint of the season, everyone knew our routes and plays, but as Brady said, “They can’t $$$$$ing stop it!”.
No one could guard JaMaar Chase or Jefferson. No one could contain Cyde when isolated on him, and our QB was one of the greatest in history.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:41 am to RobbBobb
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Brady wasn't a coordinator WHEN he WAS here, either.
When he finally became a coordinator, he had the exact same record as the coordinator before him
No, Brady at least had Coach E to teach him about everything. Gonna suck without Coach E.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:44 am to semjase
Why didn’t Brady keep this Peetz if he was so good? I mean Teddy looked so good last year! 
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:49 am to luciouslou
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Oh No! Peetz said he isn't bringing a new offense and is learning ours
Slinger's offense
Exactly! Coach E is too humble to brag about himself and he was the person who taught Joe Brady. I doubt Brady would dispute that. Too bad almost all the credit was given to Brady and people forget who Coach E was the real hero here.
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