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re: Offseason thread: Should Guice be put back into the LSU record books?
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:04 am to tlsu15
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:04 am to tlsu15
Every major sports HoF and countless record books are littered with POSs. Did LSU give up the money they made off of Guice?
He’s probably a shitbag, but it doesn’t change the fact that he was good on the field.
He’s probably a shitbag, but it doesn’t change the fact that he was good on the field.
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:07 am to tlsu15
quote:Honestly, I don't really care one way or another. I was just wondering why it's important to you. (not knocking you, just curious)
Is it not cancel culture to remove his stats? I’m just asking if you have an opinion one way or another.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:21 am to tlsu15
Of course they should. Removing someone’s on the field accomplishment for off the field stuff that had nothing to do with football is incredibly dumb
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:28 am to mdomingue
What makes me sadder than anything, is I swear guys like Charles Scott and Joseph Addai just played a few years ago. 
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:33 am to tlsu15
Never should have been removed.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:40 am to Tiger in Gatorland
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What makes me sadder than anything, is I swear guys like Charles Scott and Joseph Addai just played a few years ago.
I remember Kevin Faulk like it was yesterday
My oldest daughter knew Alley Broussard in elementary school. She'll 42 this year.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:43 am to Captain_Morgan
quote:This is where I stand on the matter...
Yes, a record is a record regardless of what the player went on to do afterwards. It would be another story if it was found he was using illegal PEDs or something helped achieve the record.
Put his records back in the book. I don't really care if he was nice or horrible, this stuff is about what he accomplished on the field.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:34 pm to mdomingue
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It seems to me like LSU is trying to have it both ways. I understand that what Guice did was pretty bad(which may be a bit of an understatement) but does it nullify his stats? And if it does why does LSU show them at all?
I think they do it to acknowledge that those performances did happen.
so the performances themselves were never wiped from existence.
just Guice himself doesn't get the satisfaction of seeing this name on paper.
or from the victim's stand point they get to know his name isn't there.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:35 pm to tlsu15
Removing records (or wins), whether it be team or personal, is really stupid. The games he played in happened, so yes, his stats should appear in the record books.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:39 pm to tlsu15
Who? Never heard of him.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:46 pm to tlsu15
It’s not up to us. It’s up to the university who they let represent the school in the record book. They obviously felt his actions were despicable enough to not represent LSU athletics in the record book. Not sure why we are debating this
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:01 pm to Indefatigable
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Removing records (or wins), whether it be team or personal, is really stupid. The games he played in happened, so yes, his stats should appear in the record books.
the records are still there.
his name is just no longer attached to them.
for example, his 2nd half against Arkansas in 2016 is still the most yards in 1 half of football in LSU history.
if you want to have your name at number 1, you have to beat his 219 yards because that IS the record.
LSU just does not officially acknowledge the name of the person that set that record.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:17 pm to Nutriaitch
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LSU just does not officially acknowledge the name of the person that set that record.
Equally silly to me
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:25 pm to tlsu15
He’s a pos but I think it’s silly to take his name out of the record books.
I wonder what he’s doing for money/income now.
He didn’t make a ton in the nfl and had to pay some settlements, and that was years ago now.
I wonder what he’s doing for money/income now.
He didn’t make a ton in the nfl and had to pay some settlements, and that was years ago now.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:27 pm to Alt26
Shouldn’t remove stats. Then it’s slippery slope.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:36 pm to JimTiger72
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It’s not about “breaking” the law.
Billy Cannon’s crimes aren’t comparable at all.
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Becoming involved in a counterfeiting scheme, he printed $6 million in U.S. 100-dollar bills, some of which he stored in ice chests buried in the back yard of a house he owned and rented out. Charged along with five others, he served two-and-a-half years of a five-year sentence at the Federal Correctional Institution, Texarkana.
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Rape & sexual misconduct allegations for Guice while he was at LSU & LSU was named in the lawsuit.
In Jim logic it's not that big of a deal to be CONVICTED of printing $6 million dollars in counterfeit money. You just can't be ALLEGED, not proven, to have raped someone.
Conviction of a federal crime = statue in front of the stadium
Unproven allegations of a crime in a civil lawsuit = name permanently disassociated with on-field performances.
I'm not saying Guice is a good guy or didn't do what he's accused of doing. But none of it was proven in a court of law like Cannon's crimes were (he pleaded guilty). I'm also not saying Cannon shouldn't have a statute. But save us the hypocrisy in arguing that it's ok for a convicted felon to be honored but not a guy who has never been a convicted felon.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:42 pm to Alt26
You can’t seem to grasp the pretty simple concept that one of them INVOLVES LSU & one doesn’t.
LSU is trying to remove themselves from any association with Guice for their own sake as much as they are trying to “punish” Guice
LSU is trying to remove themselves from any association with Guice for their own sake as much as they are trying to “punish” Guice
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:43 pm to markthetiger99
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It’s not up to us. It’s up to the university who they let represent the school in the record book. They obviously felt his actions were despicable enough to not represent LSU athletics in the record boo
Has Big Baby been removed form the basketball record book?
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:43 pm to tlsu15
You do not remove players from record books. I was at the game when Guice ran for nearly 300 yards against Texas A&M. It happened, we all saw it. If you want to disassociate someone from the school due to behavior, such as banning them from games and the campus, or not mentioning them anymore, fine. But taking names from record books is stupid.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 1:44 pm
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