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re: Nuss has thrown 7 tds 6 ints and has a career 70.6 QB rating

Posted on 9/9/23 at 12:27 am to
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
19073 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 12:27 am to
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what’s funny to me, is people here on the almighty internet who have seen a tiny smidgen of what Kelly and the staff have seen from these two guys, just throw out cliche after cliche after cliche of regurgitated garbage, and think they’re more qualified than the coaches to make this decision. It’s fricking insanity.


No doubt we, as fans, are somewhat limited as to what we can responsibly comment on. The coaches are at practice. We aren't. They know about strengths and weaknesses that we don't.

But we do follow recruiting rankings and NFL drafts so we have an informed expectation of how competitive we should be. And we occasionally look up at the scoreboard.

So last week was one of those times we expected our team, especially on offense with like 9 starters returning including a 5th Yr QB, to be more competitive. And when we weren't competitive, we fans ever so politely and gently ask: WHAT THE H-E-DOUBLE-L WERE OUR COACHES THINKING?
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16598 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 7:07 am to
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Maybe because he actually does what a QB is supposed to do. Get the ball to playmakers.

Most games he has played in, he was trying to win the starting job and forced bad throws. Not saying he won’t still be that guy, but maybe in his 3rd year he has gotten better.


He was not ready early last year, not even close. But he obviously developed and got better. He is the polar opposite of Daniels in that he goes for the big play almost every time - at times to a fault - kinda reminds me of Jamie Howard in that way.

The Georgia second half was garbage time and Purdue was a joke, but the arm talent is captivating.

I will say on my list of reasons we lost to FSU - Daniels comes in about 5th on that list, but because he has displayed the same limitations that at times plagued him last year it's always gonna open the door for speculation as to what we could be with Nuss.

In my view if not for the horrific play calling in red zone/goal line/short yardage we should have been up 31-14 at the half. Dropped passes killed 2 drives in the second half, a missed PI led to a pick that killed another and FSU may well be the best team we'll play all year.

Will Daniels be the reason we lose some future games? Only time will tell us as IMHO he's gonna be the QB barring injury - right or wrong.
Posted by BengalShark
Member since Jul 2017
3751 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 7:17 am to
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Some of y’all act like he’s a sure fire can’t miss and second coming of Burrow It’s truly amazing and entertaining to read this message board lol


A Joe Burrow level QB ain’t walkin through that door again anytime soon…

LSU fans need to understand that…

We could literally have Caleb Williams right now and it wouldn’t be like when we had burrow…
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47242 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 7:31 am to
You are correct, of course. But that’s the way of fans. If what is on the field is not working then surely something on the bench will do the trick. When all you have is a hammer…

Denver Harris, Zalance Heard, Nuss and the freshman running back are the answers, right? Right?
This post was edited on 9/9/23 at 7:32 am
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
33091 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 7:34 am to
So you were a Jarrett Lee fan in 2008 especially in that Georgia game.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
86904 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 7:43 am to
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Nuss deserves a shot. Obviously Daniels is the same old Daniels No Improvement.


Makes you wonder what he did in the off-season…..

aside of filming silly Powerade commercials that is
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34368 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 7:51 am to
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The excuses that get made for Nuss yet Jayden gets blamed for dropped passes by WR’s. This board is amazing.

I have no issues with Nuss becoming the starter as Jayden has many flaws but the inconsistency in which you guys judge these two QB’s is something.

This is the real truth.
Posted by TheJuicey
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2019
3961 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 8:12 am to
Excuses? The one game he wasn’t trying to force anything was Auburn, which he was rattled. Over his nice games after that he did better, he is developing still.

JD bad throwing has impacted the WRs. Yes if it hits their hands they need to catch it, but JD makes the catch harder most times. Go watch some of the catches the WRs made with Nuss as QB, hell even the damn TE.

I for one want to see Nuss keep developing. Especially if we get to the point where we have 2 SEC losses. Go for broke and play him for next year.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24535 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 8:13 am to
Nuss has shown improvement since day one. Daniels has peaked. Nuss has more upside, take your lumps now. Get him experienced to make a run next year.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13291 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 8:30 am to
Yeah! I don't know why most of the other competitive SEC schools wanted him. I guess their coaches aren't nearly as football savy as you.
Why did Kelly say he had two capable QBs. Surely he was not talking about Nuss.

All those ex coaches and ex-players who were praising his talent while he shredded Georgia's defense were drunk or high. Right?
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13291 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 9:12 am to
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what’s funny to me, is people here on the almighty internet who have seen a tiny smidgen of what Kelly and the staff have seen from these two guys, just throw out cliche after cliche after cliche of regurgitated garbage,


Yeah kinda reminds me of the Coaches at Ohio St, doesn't it. The coach made the decision to sit Joe and play Fields.
That Coach was a National Champion HC.
Orgeron has more QBs in the NFL than Kelly. Probably has more WRs and definitely has more National Championships.

Has Daniels any three games matched or exceeded Brennan's three?
Brennan starting one season had a RTG 154.7. That was with no defense.
Daniels, his fifth year starting had a RTG of 141.7
Nuss RTG......152.
Nuss vs Purdue RTG 200
VS Georgia.........164

Kelly knows QBs, you say.

Posted by ATLSUfan
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2015
1308 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 9:18 am to
Yes, gets the ball to the defense’s playmakers
Posted by Drayton80
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2018
813 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 9:20 am to
It is obvious that Daniels is a miss. QB rating lower than that against FSU. Fifth year senior who doesn't throw down field, misses open guys, and takes sacks on 4th down. I guess he just needs 2 or 3 more years to improve and be ready for the college game.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
21004 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 9:27 am to
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Nuss has thrown 7 tds 6 ints


JD threw 10 TDs and 10 Ints the season before he came here yet posters on here say he protects the ball. What he got out of that was PTSD and now he wont throw the damn ball when he is supposed to.

Lets compare something close to apples to apples...Both had a performance vs the #1 Defense in the country last season

Nuss
15/27 294 yds 10.9 avg 2 TD 1 Int 90.7 QBR

Daniels
16/24 208 yds 8.7 avg 1 TD 1 Int 73.1 QBR


One is not like the other. If you are doing lab experiments this is as close as you can get to one.
This post was edited on 9/9/23 at 9:32 am
Posted by CDUBTX
TX
Member since Mar 2022
261 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 9:32 am to
Daniels is not a good QB. How many starts has he had in comparison? Nussmeir deserves a legit chance. We don’t need a running QB at LSU. Louisiana produces more WRs each year than any other state and it’s our greatest weapon. We waste that talent with Daniels. Nussmeir opens up the playbook and forces the defense to defend the entire field including beyond ten yards.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16598 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 9:32 am to
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So last week was one of those times we expected our team, especially on offense with like 9 starters returning including a 5th Yr QB, to be more competitive. And when we weren't competitive, we fans ever so politely and gently ask: WHAT THE H-E-DOUBLE-L WERE OUR COACHES THINKING?


I think this is fair. I think their coaches put their players in a better position to win the game than ours. Kelly even said so.

Of course I'd rather Kelly do that rather than apologize for it afterward.

As I said earlier if I were to have made a list of the reasons we lost - Daniels would have been about 5th on the list. Specific coaching decisions would have made up several of the higher ranked reasons and I think Kelly said as much.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
25291 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 10:27 am to
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 I wouldn’t sit around and ride the bench behind a QB who sucks then jump in next year and win games for a guy who put me on the back burner for a QB who sucks and has proven over and over he sucks.

Haha...such a retard post. Daniels has his clear flaws, but if he sucked like you say, LSU would have never won the SEC West with a pieced together team that wasn't picked to win shite last year. You don't win back-to-back SEC Offensive Player of the Week awards like Daniels did against Ole Miss and Bama (who LSU hadn't beaten at home since 2010) if you suck as a QB in the SEC.

Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
33091 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 9:15 pm to
You are not very smart. Take the Grambling game out of the equation. We literally have NO running game without Daniels. None . You'll have Nuss meier with 3 TDs and 3 interceptions and the victim of 4+ sacks a game .
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