re: Notre Dame fans are grateful that LSU took Brian Kelly off of their hands.

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Fwiw I drank with a former Notre Dame and current NFL player this weekend and he told me Brian Kelly “f***** sucks” and is the worst coach he's ever played for

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It’s not worth anything. You don’t win as much as Brian Kelly has by being a terrible coach.

Will he be able to win a national championship at LSU? Only time will tell but I can guarantee you he isn’t a bad coach.

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They're killing it in recruiting. They currently have the #1 class for 2023 and 2024.

It's pretty clear that their recruiting has skyrocketed since Freeman took over.

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all of this will even out real soon. For instance, Ohio St just got commitments from the #2, #3, and #9 WRs. All in the top 50, 2 being 5 stars. They got those guys all over the span of 3 days early last week. They went from top 15 to the #2 class just with 3 commits.

Notre Dame will likely finish with a top 10 class, but the year before he got there as a DC, Kelly had the #9 class. As a matter of fact, in the prior 5 classes before Freeman got there, they finished with 3 top 10 classes.

I actually expect LSU to finish ahead of Notre Dame along with UGA, Ohio St, Bama, Miami, TAMU, Texas, and possibly USC.

Lol these words will come back to haunt them. Kelly is a proven winner everywhere he has been.

Why do we care what another fan base thinks?

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Did he hit his ceiling or did he hit Notre Dame’s ceiling?

That is the question that we won’t know for a few years.

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Jamarr Chase, Terrace Marshall, Justin Jefferson, DJ Chark, Jarvis Landry, Odell Beckham, Kayshon Boutte. Leonard Fournette, Derrius Guice, Jemery Hill, CEH. La'el Collins, Trai Turner. Derek Stingley, Tre White, Kristian Fulton, Greedy Williams, Tyrann Mathieu, Donte Jackson, Eric Reid. Devin White, Patrick Queen, Debo Jones. Jaquelin Roy, Maason Smith, Rashard Lawrence.

These are just some of the big time studs that have come out of Louisiana alone in the prior decade. Did not mention stud guys that came out of the state before 2011 recruiting classes or stud guys that went to Bama or Clemson or anywhere else during that time. I also didn't list any of the out of state studs, many of who were all SEC, All Americans, and first round picks.

Kelly hit Notre Dame’s ceiling, not LSU's, and certainly not his own ceiling.

LSU fans celebrated the firing of a guy who had a BETTER winning % (.770 v. .700), actually won a national championship, and never had a losing season. I don't say that because I think Les is a better HC. Just pointing out that the perspective in which fans see a coach is often very different than the outside perspective.

For ND they are "thankful" a guy who could not win a NC is gone with the HOPE the next guy can. They are like LSU fans with Les. The thought was that he plateaued and would never win a championship again. The problem with that line of thinking from a ND perspective is ND hasn't won a championship in nearly 35 years...with 4 different coaches. The last guy, Kelly, was the ONLY one during that time period to even get them close.

On the flip side, LSU is the ONLY program in America that has had each of it's last three HC's win a National Championship.

Given that history, while neither is 100% certain, the odds that Kelly wins a NC at LSU seem FAR greater than those of Freeman winning a NC at ND.

Every time they get a new coach, they have top 5 preseason hype for a few years then it dies down. I expect that again. There is just a ceiling there.

Josh Pate had the best take on this. This is good for both schools, and both coaches. Everyone got what they wanted, so both schools/fanbases trying to dunk on the other about this doesn't make a lot of sense.

Man, they’re fricking idiots.

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don't agree. What if there was an all women's college that started admitting males? Do you think a college like that would have a low ceiling? Because there was one like that and it became a perennial powerhouse in college football. The coach who built them into that was a great man named Bobby Bowden. A great man like that would take ND and win national championships. Kelly looks like a good coach, and I'm happy LSU has him, but the reason he didn't win more at ND was because of the ceiling on ND coached by Brian Kelly, not on ND alone.

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The difference is, FSU has a better recruiting base, plays in a Power 5 Conference, and doesn’t have the academic standards/restrictions that Notre Dame has.