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re: New SI article claiming more violations for Wade

Posted on 3/30/20 at 11:58 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278474 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 11:58 am to
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Explain to me how North Carolina skated free When there were mountains of indirect evidence against them? I



such as?

You do realize at least 5 coaches have been fired and lost their job over this already, right? 3 were even arrested. I really dont think you understand how this works, at all.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93703 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:03 pm to
Serious question that I don't know the answer to. How many of the coaches that you're referring to had no evidence of payment?
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:35 pm to
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shite, I don't care that Sean Miller, Bill Self, Calipari, Saban or Coach O are breaking the rules.

We should all care if the rules are broken. Otherwise, there is no integrity and that's when championships mean nothing.
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Finding a competitive advantage as been a part of sports since the beginning of time.

Yes, but within the rules of the game and the NCAA.
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I still can't understand what your real world analogies have to do with anyone caring about a coach breaking NCAA rules to win a basketball game.

My analogies are simply moral and/or ethical choices. We are confronted with these choices daily. It is interesting to note that WW's contract probably does not mention "winning." However, we all know that his contract is full of language connected to ethical decisions and adherence to NCAA rules.
Posted by BobBarker
Bompton
Member since Nov 2012
11657 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:53 pm to
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Woodward won’t care. He wants to win, but win clean. Period. Too much at stake.


Ya’ll are so fricking naive.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10722 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:08 pm to
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Nonsense, on all of your points. First, you assume that all successful programs are cheating. You don't know that. Is there a chance there are one or more successful programs who are not cheating?


I know it just as much as you know Wade broke the rules. Clemson football (you know, “God’s program”) as well as Alabama football was implicated in the same wiretap conversations WW was. You’re deliberately ignoring the obvious so you can adhere to your ideologies that don’t square with reality.
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 2:11 pm
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13979 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 5:58 pm to
...and Clemson fired Steve Smith. I don’t believe any Alabama coaches were caught on the wiretap, as Steve Smith and Will Wade were.
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4617 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:12 pm to
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still the best coach on campus...


Nope.

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And it isn’t close


You are correct. It's not close.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10722 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:44 pm to
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and Clemson fired Steve Smith. I don’t believe any Alabama coaches were caught on the wiretap, as Steve Smith and Will Wade were.



You’re having a different conversation than I am here. You’re talking about coaches getting caught cheating. Irish is implying there are top programs not cheating, which is obviously false and would put those programs at such a disadvantage that they wouldn’t be competitive. You can say “coaches that get caught cheating should be fired,” but that’s not what we are talking about.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13979 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 7:57 pm to
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You’re talking about coaches getting caught cheating.


Steven Smith was no more “caught” that Will Wade. Actually, his wiretapped statements say less incriminating things than Wade.
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18065 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:05 pm to
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Pointing fingers at other schools will only make things worse.


How?
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18065 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:07 pm to
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And you will be the first person on here "crying like a baby" about scholarship reductions, postseason ban, and other penalties levied on LSU BB. I hope none of this happens but we have a responsibility as fans to take all of this seriously


Lester was the first and you were the second one crying on here so at best 3rd.
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18065 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:09 pm to
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You are probably "part of the problem." If this all breaks (I hope it does not), you should be the first person to hit the road.


Wow. So now you are accusing an ex-player of cheating? You a really are a piece of shite.
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18065 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:22 pm to
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If the NOA contains Level I or II violations, WW is gone (remember his contract). This contract was something the upper administration "required" in order to keep WW. The BOS will want WW gone if the NOA comes our way.


Do you know what constitutes a level 1 or level 2 infraction? Because if its 1 or 2 visits or contacts with a recruit during a dead period, that's not it.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:43 pm to
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Do you know what constitutes a level 1 or level 2 infraction?


LINK

LINK
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 8:45 pm
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:49 pm to
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Clemson football (you know, “God’s program”) as well as Alabama football was implicated in the same wiretap conversations WW was.

I don't remember hearing Dabo's or Saban's voice on the FBI wiretaps.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:54 pm to
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So now you are accusing an ex-player of cheating?

If the shoe fits.....
You are the one who claims to be "connected on a daily basis" with everything LSU BB. And, you claim to have all of this "inside" information. If you know all of this, and you don't report it to the LSU compliance office, YOU are part of the problem.
One more thing.....ANYONE who "damages" the University I love can go straight to hell.
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18065 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 9:38 pm to
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If the shoe fits.....
You are the one who claims to be "connected on a daily basis" with everything LSU BB. And, you claim to have all of this "inside" information. If you know all of this, and you don't report it to the LSU compliance office, YOU are part of the problem.
One more thing.....ANYONE who "damages" the University I love can go straight to hell.


That wasn't me. And he never said he saw anyone cheating or knew of anyone cheating. Exactly what would he tell the compliance office? He said the article was bullshite.

If it was me, I would tell you to get off your self righteous high horse and suck sand. I believe the bible says he who is without sin cast the first stone. And no man is perfect outside Jesus Christ but ofcourse you think you are perfect or one to judge. Even though you have no real tangible evidence that Wade has done anything wrong.
Posted by spinelli
Member since Mar 2020
15 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:04 pm to
UNC got away with it the same way Auburn and Michigan escaped punishment for similar violations. Sankey was the SEC's associate commissioner during this time, and the conference, along with the NCAA, decided to look the other way at Auburn's academic fraud. UNC even used the Auburn and Michigan in their defense, and the NCAA (With Sankey in charge) had no choice but to drop the case when UNC threatened legal action.

LINK

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I keep saying that LSU should use this same strategy if the NCAA wants to punish the program. Bring up examples of other cheaters who escaped punishment for paying players and throw that in the face of the NCAA. I'm looking at you John Calipari and Kentucky.

LINK
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 11:17 pm to
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And he never said he saw anyone cheating or knew of anyone cheating.

He said EVERYONE is cheating (that would include WW).
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18065 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:38 am to
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He said EVERYONE is cheating (that would include WW).


Oh he did? Must have missed it.

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You guys keep saying being caught cheating. Who got caught cheating. Have you not learned anything from CNN?

Know how I know this is not true up to this point? I am around LSU basketball weekly and as of now ,article is full of shite. We as a university had had feelers out and NCAA hasn’t said or done anything up to this point leading us to think we are being investigated for anything. Sorry , I am just so tired of this bull crap.

Not saying nothing I’ll come of this. If anything comes of this, 
It will be because of peeps reading this asshats articles and keeping it in the news. Nobody reads this BS he will stop writing bs stories.

Want to bet. 

Def not getting in a pissing contest with you. Believe what you want ,up to this point article is BS. Ask Vol ,everybody seems to think his word is gospel Have a good day and stay safe

Then it must be true ,dope

Like most of his recruiting tips , must be right. Have a good day not going to defend something I know to be true. 




This isnt everything he said but please point to where he said, he witnessed anyone cheating or everyone cheating.

I'll wait.
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