re: NDSU apparently did not know rule about use of green bag at 1st base

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You have to return to the field of play to be eligible to be put out. A runner can go toward second in foul territory with zero repercussions.

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correct. I should have been more clear in my post.

from the 2024 Rule Book:

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SECTION 5. A runner is out when:

After reaching first base safely, the runner leaves the baseline in an obvious
move to continue an attempt to advance to the next base and is tagged;

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and it's an umpire's discretion as to what is "an obvious move"
I've seen a couple really questionable ones over the years.

So the green bag only matters when running from home to 1st base on an in-field live ball. Anything else and you use the regular bag. Right?

A wealth of knowledge on this board, thanks for enlightening the old folks,

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You don’t get RBIs on errors.

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100% incorrect.

I could list numerous examples.

1) Runner at 3rd. None out. Infield playing back. Ground ball to shortstop. Runner runs on contact for home. Shortstop throws to first and it goes over the 1st baseman's head for an error. Run scores. Batter gets RBI.

2) Squeeze play. Infielder charges and throws home but the throws is wild and the run scores. Batter makes it to 2nd. Batter gets RBI if scorer determine the runner was going to beat the throw home despite the bad throw. Batter gets a sacrifice and reaches on the error.

3) A dropped fly ball absolutely does NOT negate an RBI. In the situation mentioned from last night, the batter got a little unlucky because a force out was achieved and the batter got an 0-1, but he still earns the RBI.

If the only runner had been at 3rd and a fly ball is dropped, the batter still gets a sac-fly and RBI and reaches base on an error.

I guess this same logic holds true if hit to infield? Say the runner last night decided to continue on to 2nd base and was safe. If LSU challenged would they have won and had runner declared out b/c he never touched "white" bag? I say let the NDSU Bison enjoy the green bag for this series. It's part of their school colors! LOL

We need to play them in football. They are AWESOME and will plan anyone ..... anywhere. My brother lives there. Nice town.

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Also this did not happen but if you hit the ball to the outfield you can not touch the green base rounding first.

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You’re not allowed to touch it? Or touching the green bag means nothing (assuming you touch the white bag)?

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on a ball hit into the outfield where there is no chance of a play at first, the runner may touch either base when rounding.

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PENALTY for (3)—Batter-runner is out.
4) On extra-base hits or other balls hit to the outfield when there is no
chance for a play to be made at the double base, the batter-runner may
touch either the white or colored section of the base. Should, however,
the batter-runner reach and go beyond first base, they may only return
to the white section of the base.

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I guess this same logic holds true if hit to infield? Say the runner last night decided to continue on to 2nd base and was safe. If LSU challenged would they have won and had runner declared out b/c he never touched "white" bag?

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no, because he touched the green bag as part of reaching first base safely initially.

He could continue to 2nd and be either safe or out there depending on the play at that bag.

The green/white came into play on him going back to the bag where he has to go to white and not green.



also of note is the only exception to the rule.

the fielder uses the white bag, runner uses the green EXCEPT on instances of a dropped 3rd strike where the throw draws the fielder toward foul territory. Then the fielder may use the green and the runner the white.

I think the appealing coach knew the rule. He was just hoping the replay would show his runner maybe touching the white first base. He shrugged his shoulders just after the appeal as though he was saying, "worth a try."

How about we just take the double base and toss it in a fire? Tell whoever at the SEC office thinks they solved world hunger by implementing this rule that they can go jump in a ditch. Nobody wants this, not the coaches, not the players. It's just some loser in the SEC front office that has to justify his job and now he's patting himself on the back because he thinks players were being killed or worse from all the collisions at first base.

I thought it was common sense that a runner can only use the green bag while running to 1st base.

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use of green bag at 1st base

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I was sitting 25ft from that thing last night and still had no idea why it was multicolored. Actually did not know about the rule until reading this. TheMoreYouKnow.gif