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re: Mondo broke his own record and went over 6.2M
Posted on 3/20/22 at 10:04 pm to Ingeniero
Posted on 3/20/22 at 10:04 pm to Ingeniero
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You mean he didn't want to pay his own expenses,
USATF gives hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of grants to elite athletes every year for training expenses. Sponsors and meet promoters pay for travel, coaches, medical staff, etc. Stop lying.
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trade his dad for a USATF coach,
There is no USATF coach. Every athlete in the us has their own personal coach they train with, and that coach continues coaching them at the Olympics/world championships. USATF even helps them get credentials for the event. Stop lying.
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compete in a convoluted qualifying process
What don’t you understand about being one of the top 3 finishers with the event entry standard at the Olympic trials?
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and take part in a sport that's significantly less popular in the US than it is in Europe?
The only accurate statement in your entire post.
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Posted on 3/20/22 at 10:05 pm to Ingeniero
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You mean he didn't want to pay his own expenses, trade his dad for a USATF coach, compete in a convoluted qualifying process, and take part in a sport that's significantly less popular in the US than it is in Europe?
You're right, he's a Benedict Arnold cuck. Pretty much hates America
I can't tell if you're addressing that to me or the dumbass who I was responding to. I have no issues with Mondo competing for Sweden.
Posted on 3/20/22 at 10:07 pm to Adam Banks
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After he betrayed his country
Your own country betrays you everyday.
Seriously though, who melts this hard about pole vaulting?
Rabble rabble rabble
Posted on 3/20/22 at 10:10 pm to Tiger1988
Link to jump and pics of girlfriend? TIA
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:38 am to Purpledaize
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Compete for USA and don’t make enough to cover your training or compete for Sweden and make millions and be a national hero. You people are delusional
And date a Swedish Model. He is worth 4MM at 22 y/o….
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:47 am to Open Your Eyes
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The USATF qualifying system isn’t ridiculous, it’s the only fair way to do it when you have multiple athletes in every event that are good enough to qualify for championship level meets. There were 12 Americans that had the entry standard to compete in pole vault in the Olympics last year. There was 1 guy from Sweden. That’s why Sweden can automatically put mondo on their teams without finishing in the top 3 at their championships and the US can’t.
It is ridiculous just ask Dan and Dan. It needs to change to an automatic qualifying if you’re ranked or have performed at a certain standard in the year of the games. That is only fair. I’ll be back in Austin (probably for the last time in my life) this weekend watching T&F and will ask a few athletes and officials what they think. I’ve asked this question before and ever since Dan and Dan fiasco, the T&F community has been split with the majority (about 60%) of the people I’ve unofficially surveyed agreeing with the auto qualifying scenario proposed above.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:48 am to Open Your Eyes
quote:he wouldn’t be at 4MM had he stayed here nor would he have a Swede Model as a girlfriend/Partner.
USATF gives hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of grants to elite athletes every year for training expenses. Sponsors and meet promoters pay for travel, coaches, medical staff, etc. Stop lying.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:56 am to Tiger1988
Awesome. I would love to know what it's like to be a god in Sweden.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:22 am to r0cky1
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No. Living the USA all your life and not representing your country is a joke.
And he’ll live in the USA after representing Sweden too. That’s the even bigger joke
What a loser take.
It's a business and has nothing to do with country allegiance. Maybe it did 50 years ago.
Sweden offered him a guaranteed spot when he was younger, while the USA didn't.
End of story.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:28 am to Tiger1988
He should have his US citizenship revoked if he doesn't want to compete for the US
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:40 am to Tiger1988
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It is ridiculous just ask Dan and Dan
It was Dan and Dave you moron.
And there was nothing ridiculous about that. O’Brien failed to perform when he needed to, and he didn’t make the team as a result. If he had made the Olympics and no heighted in the pole vault, he wouldn’t have been handed the gold medal either.
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It needs to change to an automatic qualifying if you’re ranked or have performed at a certain standard in the year of the games.
That’s literally exactly what it is right now. So what is your solution when more than 3 people have the automatic qualifying standard, since making them compete against each other is “ridiculous”?
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That is only fair.
Any solution you propose to resolving multiple people having a qualifying standard that is not them competing directly against each other will introduce bias and/or subjective criteria. Literally the complete opposite of fair.
Nia Ali won silver in 2016 and gold in 2019 in the 100 hurdles. Under your system she would not have even made the team for either meet. But you think that’s “fair”
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I’ll be back in Austin (probably for the last time in my life) this weekend watching T&F and will ask a few athletes and officials what they think.
Don’t forget, sitting in the stands at Texas Relays still doesn’t mean you know shite about track.
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the T&F community has been split with the majority (about 60%) of the people I’ve unofficially surveyed agreeing with the auto qualifying scenario proposed above.
You’re completely full of shite.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:47 am to Tiger1988
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he wouldn’t be at 4MM had he stayed here
1. The other moron I was responding to said he would have to pay for his own training in the US. That is patently false.
2. The vast majority of his earnings come from his primary endorsement deal with Puma, prize money from winning meets/medals, and bonuses for breaking records. All of those are available to him in the United States, Sweden, and just about ab other country.
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nor would he have a Swede Model as a girlfriend/Partner.
Let’s ignore how creepily pathetic this one is for a moment.
You know this how? Are Americans not allowed to date Swedish people? Are Swedish people the only models in the world?
Posted on 3/21/22 at 12:17 pm to Open Your Eyes
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The other moron I was responding to said he would have to pay for his own training in the US. That is patently false.
Here is an article about athletes having to start Gofundmes, work part time jobs, etc. to stay afloat and pay for their training. The stipends from USATF are peanuts. Ryan Crouser, who won gold and set a world record, wasn't even sure if he'd get paid when the 2020 Olympics got delayed a year because his contract only ran through 2020: LINK
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The vast majority of his earnings come from his primary endorsement deal with Puma, prize money from winning meets/medals, and bonuses for breaking records. All of those are available to him in the United States, Sweden, and just about ab other country.
Sponsorship deals are massively suppressed during Olympic periods because of Rule 40. Sanya Richards-Ross and Nick Symmonds crusaded against this. Not only that, who's to say he gets that good of a deal competing in the US? He competes in a niche event within a niche sport. Who's dropping money on that? Crouser, who I mentioned earlier, has been in the game for years and has a net worth of $1m. Mondo didn't turn pro until 2019 and is worth 4x that.
Regardless, you're looking at all this in hindsight. In 2015, if given the option to compete for Sweden and have a guaranteed path to championship level competition, or roll the dice and hope you get that same outcome with the US, you'd be a moron to not choose the guarantee.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 12:21 pm to Tiger1988
Way to Geaux, Mondeaux, we're all proud of you. Keep bending your pole bebe
Posted on 3/21/22 at 2:00 pm to Open Your Eyes
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O’Brien failed to perform when he needed to, and he didn’t make the team as a result. If he had made the Olympics and no heighted in the pole vault, he wouldn’t have been handed the gold medal either.
Look a-hole. That is not what I’m proposing. I’m saying ranked and qualifying. Nobody thinks the WR holder should have to go and compete. It doesn’t happen in other countries like T&T and others . Just stop.
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Nia Ali won silver in 2016 and gold in 2019 in the 100 hurdles. Under your system she would not have even made the team for either meet. But you think that’s “fair”
Not really. She wasn’t the reigning WC or Record holder and ranked 1 in the world. Is it perfect? Nope, but it means her arse would have had to compete to qualify for the other 2 spots. You earn it by competing just in the trials.
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You’re completely full of shite.
Come this weekend and you can ask for yourself and I’ll witness it. Otherwise, you have no clue who I know that have competed for colleges and their respective countries including here.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 2:38 pm to Adam Banks
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Adam Banks
you probably think the South seceded from the Union SOLELY because of states' rights too
The ineptitude of these replies is astounding. In a sport where the pay is heavily determined based on where you compete geographically, Mondo is taking every opportunity to his advantage. Compare what Sweden has over the US:
Training facility access
Sponsorship opportunity
Apparel contract
Competition
Meet exposure
National branding
My guy is the biggest name in Swedish athletics, and will arguably be bigger the Zlatan Ibrahimovic, the best soccer player of that nation. Get a damn grip. He is doing what's best for himself by a long shot, because we all know damn well that the US only cares about track & field during Olympic season.
Always cheer on your fellow Tigers, no matter where they're from.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 7:35 pm to Ingeniero
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ere is an article about athletes having to start Gofundmes, work part time jobs, etc. to stay afloat and pay for their training
That’s an article full of people that don’t have sponsorship deals. They are not even close to duplantis’ level as an athlete.
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The stipends from USATF are peanuts.
Sponsorship deals include money for training, travel, coaching, treatment, treatment, etc.
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Ryan Crouser, who won gold and set a world record, wasn't even sure if he'd get paid when the 2020 Olympics got delayed a year because his contract only ran through 2020
Ryan Crouser would be signed the second his context expired if Nike was stupid enough to let that happen.
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Sponsorship deals are massively suppressed during Olympic periods because of Rule 40. Sanya Richards-Ross and Nick Symmonds crusaded against this
Rule 40 is an IOC rule that is only in effect from about a month before the Olympics until the it’s over. It impacts the athletes ability to recognize their sponsors during that period, it doesn’t reduce their compensation.
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Not only that, who's to say he gets that good of a deal competing in the US? He competes in a niche event within a niche sport. Who's dropping money on that?
Your statement was that he would have to pay his own training expenses had he represented the US. That is patently false bad is not remotely the same as ‘he makes more money representing Sweden’
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Crouser, who I mentioned earlier, has been in the game for years and has a net worth of $1m. Mondo didn't turn pro until 2019 and is worth 4x that.
Mondo competes in far more high caliber meets than Crouser does, generating substantially more in appearance fees, prize money, and performance bonuses.
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Regardless, you're looking at all this in hindsight. In 2015, if given the option to compete for Sweden and have a guaranteed path to championship level competition, or roll the dice and hope you get that same outcome with the US, you'd be a moron to not choose the guarantee.
“ Mondo chose the easy route in making the decision to represent Sweden. That’s not a bad thing, it was the best choice for his career. But it’s not something to be applauded either, and it doesn’t make the USATF qualifying system bad.”
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:09 pm to Pelican fan99
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He should have his US citizenship revoked if he doesn't want to compete for the US
This country is going down the shitter. He made the right choice baw
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:12 pm to Lakeboy7
I’m happy for him but he really should be for USA
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:12 pm to Tiger1988
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Look a-hole. That is not what I’m proposing.
If you the slightest bit logical it would be.
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I’m saying ranked and qualifying.
And I already told you that’s exactly what the current system is.
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Nobody thinks the WR holder should have to go and compete
Speak for yourself. And see above statement about your inability to be logical. Thankfully track athletes aren’t entitled pussies that don’t think they have to compete like you.
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It doesn’t happen in other countries like T&T and others . Just stop.
Yea, other countries subjectively name their teams based on things outside of results on the track. And you think that’s “fair”
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Not really. She wasn’t the reigning WC
Remember that not knowing shite about track thing you have? The reigning world champion is given an automatic birth to the next world championships.
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Record holder
What record? Do American records also get an automatic pass? What about a Diamond league record? Or a meet record at the Olympics or world championships? What about a “clean” WR where the only person you haven’t beaten in history was a known cheater? How recently does the record have to be set?
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and ranked 1 in the world.
When? From the current year? The previous year? 2 years ago while you sat out the non-championships year or focused on a secondary event?
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Is it perfect? Nope, but it means her arse would have had to compete to qualify for the other 2 spots. You earn it by competing just in the trials.
Why does she have to earn it but not someone else you subjectively decide doesn’t need to?
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Come this weekend and you can ask for yourself and I’ll witness it.
Make sure you go up in the backstretch stands and ask shaver while he’s there. Right after you tell him how you guaranteed the men wouldn’t win the championship last year because the 40th ranked pole vaulter didn’t PR at the regional meet.
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Otherwise, you have no clue who I know that have competed for colleges and their respective countries including here.
Nor do I care. Because no amount of name dropping or sitting in the stands at Texas Relays will prevent you from not knowing shite about track.
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