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re: Mondo broke his own record and went over 6.2M
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:38 pm to Open Your Eyes
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:38 pm to Open Your Eyes
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If you the slightest bit logical it would be.
I’m talking about the WC. I’m talking about the Olympics like I said from the beginning.
This is about why someone should have to compete being there WC for a spot on the OLYMPIC TEAM.
Qualifying marks must be attained in a U.S. Olympic Trials event.
You’re full of shite. The reigning championship SHOULD NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH QUALIFYING. Period. Look how many countries do not require that.
[link=(Thankfully track athletes aren’t entitled pussies that don’t think they have to compete like you.)]LINK[/link]
You’re full of shite. Those are the loser ones that want to qualify and not those that should deservedly get a pass.
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The reigning world champion is given an automatic birth to the next world championships.
This was NEVER ABOUT WCs a-hole. This started why Mondo competed for Sweden. Skipping trials was the main reason.
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What record? Do American records also get an automatic pass? What about a Diamond league record? Or a meet record at the Olympics or world championships? What about a “clean” WR where the only person you haven’t beaten in history was a known cheater? How recently does the record have to be set?
“Clean”? Is that like smoking weed when they changed the legal/acceptable limit? All of this is bull shite what ifs. We are talking about reigning WC. Record holder was an additional qualifier. You separated them. [link=(When? From the current year? )]LINK[/link]
I said current year in my post.
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Because no amount of name dropping or sitting in the stands at Texas Relays will prevent you from not knowing shite about track.
Here is what I know. Without Boo, Dennis is still the loser he has always been and a cheater. Take that back to him IF YOU KNOW HIM.
You have never been to a track meet or competed based on what I’ve read from you because your reading comprehension and spinning bull crap is all I needed to see. This started I off as a simple post on why Mondo chose what he chose and you spin it to being a bitch. I’m done with you.
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:12 pm to Tiger1988
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I’m talking about the WC. I’m talking about the Olympics like I said from the beginning. This is about why someone should have to compete being there WC for a spot on the OLYMPIC TEAM.
None of this makes even the slightest bit of sense. I’ll just chalk it up to another instance of you not knowing shite about track.
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Qualifying marks must be attained in a U.S. Olympic Trials event.
What exactly is a “US Olympic Trials event” moron?
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You’re full of shite. The reigning championship SHOULD NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH QUALIFYING.
You still don’t realize the reigning world champion doesn’t have to go through qualifying because they get an automatic entry into the next world championships. Because you don’t know shite about track.
Unless of course you’re talking about the reigning Olympic champion not having to qualify for the next Olympics. Because 4 years is totally not a lot of time and nothing could possibly change in that period. Please tell me you’re stupid enough to be making that argument.
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You’re full of shite. Those are the loser ones that want to qualify and not those that should deservedly get a pass.
The people that want to compete to prove they’re the best are the losers and not the ones that “deserve a pass” based on your made up criteria? Stupid and entitled is no way to go through life.
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This was NEVER ABOUT WCs a-hole. This started why Mondo competed for Sweden. Skipping trials was the main reason.
Do you think there are no trials for world championships? Please tell me you’re stupid enough to think that.
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Clean”? Is that like smoking weed when they changed the legal/acceptable limit?
I forgot, you don’t know shite about track. Read up on the womens 800 world record dumbass.
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All of this is bull shite what ifs.
All legitimate questions that can, should, and would be asked the moment you introduce any kind of record=autoqualifier stupidity.
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We are talking about reigning WC. Record holder was an additional qualifier. You separated them.
You keep saying you don’t want to talk about world championships then turn around and talk about reigning world champions being autoqualifiers. Your stupidity is limitless.
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said current year in my post.
If you’re taking the Olympic champion from
4 years ago why wouldn’t you take the world #1 from last year? In Olympic years most of the top athletes are training to peak at Olympic trials and will not put up a #1 performance prior to that. Why are you disqualifying them from auto qualifying in favor of some other try hard that runs fast when nobody else is trying?
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Here is what I know. Without Boo, Dennis is still the loser he has always been and a cheater. Take that back to him IF YOU KNOW HIM.
What did Boo have to do with laird, Williams, Burrell, Thomas, Pedigo, or the relays last year dumbass?
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You have never been to a track meet or competed based on what I’ve read from you
You guaranteed LSU’s men would not win a championship last year because they didn’t advance anyone out of the regional meet that wasn’t supposed to advance. They proceeded to have one of the highest point totals and margins of victory in meet history. If sitting in the stands at Texas relays made you that stupid then there is no advantage to me having been to one or not.
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your reading comprehension and spinning bull crap is all I needed to see.
You type incoherent babble and construct pre-school level arguments with no logic or ability to withstand any scrutiny behind them.
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This started I off as a simple post on why Mondo chose what he chose and you spin it to being a bitch
You turned it into your usual shitshow spewing nonsense about a topic you know absolutely nothing about because you think sitting in the stands makes you intelligent.
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I’m done with you.
Try being done posting.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:29 pm to Tiger1988
He crushed it 
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:30 pm to Open Your Eyes
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That’s an article full of people that don’t have sponsorship deals. They are not even close to duplantis’ level as an athlete.
Yes, because he was able to develop among international competition by competing for Sweden
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Sponsorship deals include money for training, travel, coaching, treatment, treatment, etc.
Sponsorships that he got by competing for Sweden
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Rule 40 is an IOC rule that is only in effect from about a month before the Olympics until the it’s over. It impacts the athletes ability to recognize their sponsors during that period, it doesn’t reduce their compensation.
Yes, a crucial time because the US only pays attention to track every 4 years. Unlike in Sweden.
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Your statement was that he would have to pay his own training expenses had he represented the US. That is patently false bad is not remotely the same as ‘he makes more money representing Sweden’
Yes, prior to Mondo having a sponsorship he would have to pay his own expenses. He said himself that the Swedish athletic director offered to take care of all of it:
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"You should compete for Sweden, we’re super well-organized, we’re going to take care of your poles, we’re going to do everything for you,’ ” Duplantis recently recalled. “It sounded like a pretty good offer.”"
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Mondo competes in far more high caliber meets than Crouser does, generating substantially more in appearance fees, prize money, and performance bonuses.
Ryan Crouser and Mondo have almost identical resumes: world record holder, gold medalist, competes in a niche field event. Would you like to guess what the difference is? Your hint is Sweden.
Everything you bring up is because of the choices he made. His good sponsorships, his ability to command a higher appearance fee, his development. All because of the path he took. You can argue that hypothetically he might have the same outcome for the US, but that's 1. a hypothetical and 2. not in line with what his peers get who actually do compete for the US.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:10 pm to Ingeniero
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Yes, because he was able to develop among international competition by competing for Sweden
Oh, so people can only develop into elite athletes by competing for Sweden? How the frick do the US, Jamaica, Kenya, Italy, and dozens of other countries have so many of them then?
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Sponsorships that he got by competing for Sweden
So only athletes that compete for Sweden get sponsorship deals? Usain Bolt, Allyson Felix, Andre de Grasse, Kirsten Warholm, Jakob ingrebridsten, and hundreds more would all like to know who’s been paying them all these years.
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Yes, a crucial time because the US only pays attention to track every 4 years. Unlike in Sweden.
You fail to even attempt to make an argument on what the people in Sweden paying attention outside of the Olympics has to do with duplantis’ contract with Puma, Red Bull, or any other sponsor. Or how any American athlete sponsored by a company is impacted by it. You threw out rule 40 to attempt to sound intelligent, failed, and now have to resort to special formatting in your replies to distract from your stupidity.
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Yes, prior to Mondo having a sponsorship he would have to pay his own expenses.
So prior to becoming one of the best people in the world at what he did he would’ve had to pay his own expenses? You think Sweden is still paying mondo if he’s the same 17’ pole vaulter today that he was when he chose to compete for them? An athlete not even capable of qualifying for the Olympics?
Tell us again how he would’ve been forced to leave his dad for a “USATF coach” had he chose to represent the US. And exactly what part of ‘top 3 finishers at the qualifying event with the entry standard’ is difficult for you to understand.
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Ryan Crouser and Mondo have almost identical resumes: world record holder, gold medalist, competes in a niche field event. Would you like to guess what the difference is? Your hint is Sweden.
You have absolutely no understanding of how finances in track and field work. Mondo makes more than Crouser because he competes far more often in meets that pay money. Crouser gets paid nothing to throw really far at Arkansas every couple weeks while mondo is competing in multiple European meets that pay appearance fees, prize money, and performance bonuses.
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Everything you bring up is because of the choices he made. His good sponsorships, his ability to command a higher appearance fee, his development. All because of the path he took.
So we’re back to Sweden being the only place people can get good sponsorships, get high appearance fees, and develop into an elite athlete. And you somehow think saying this makes you sound like you know what you’re talking about
You should let usain bolt know how much better he could’ve performed and how much more sponsorship money he could’ve made if he had chosen to represent Sweden
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You can argue that hypothetically he might have the same outcome for the US, but that's 1. a hypothetical and 2. not in line with what his peers get who actually do compete for the US.
His peers are not on his level or anywhere close to it. Tell me again how that’s because he chooses to compete for Sweden even though his coach and training environment is still mostly the same as it has been his entire life, which led to him winning world youth championships and setting world junior records when he was in high school in Lafayette.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:55 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Oh, so people can only develop into elite athletes by competing for Sweden? How the frick do the US, Jamaica, Kenya, Italy, and dozens of other countries have so many of them then?
I didn't say "Sweden is the only place people can develop." I said he developed the way he did because he competed for Sweden since 2015. Again, you can argue a HYPOTHETICAL that he would've done the same elsewhere, but he didn't. Your argument hinges on a "what if"
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Usain Bolt, Allyson Felix, Andre de Grasse
Sprinters. Not relevant to this discussion.
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Warholm, Jakob ingrebridsten
Europeans. Like Mondo. Which is my point.
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You fail to even attempt to make an argument on what the people in Sweden paying attention outside of the Olympics has to do with duplantis’ contract with Puma, Red Bull, or any other sponsor. Or how any American athlete sponsored by a company is impacted by it. You threw out rule 40 to attempt to sound intelligent, failed, and now have to resort to special formatting in your replies to distract from your stupidity.
I didn't "throw out rule 40 to attempt to sound intelligent." I brought it up to highlight the fact that his event only gets a miniscule amount of attention every 4 years, and that he wouldn't be a billboard for his sponsor during the only period that Americans pay attention to that sport. Meaning, lower sponsorship money.
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So prior to becoming one of the best people in the world at what he did he would’ve had to pay his own expenses? You think Sweden is still paying mondo if he’s the same 17’ pole vaulter today that he was when he chose to compete for them? An athlete not even capable of qualifying for the Olympics?
Yes?
that's why it matters. Because Sweden offered him better facilities, better treatment, etc. BEFORE he was the greatest in the world. My entire point is that he was getting a better deal from Sweden, you dipshit. Of course they wouldn't be paying him if he was jumping 17', you just made something up that has nothing to do with my argument, because you're dumb. quote:
You have absolutely no understanding of how finances in track and field work. Mondo makes more than Crouser because he competes far more often in meets that pay money. Crouser gets paid nothing to throw really far at Arkansas every couple weeks while mondo is competing in multiple European meets that pay appearance fees, prize money, and performance bonuses.
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So we’re back to Sweden being the only place people can get good sponsorships, get high appearance fees, and develop into an elite athlete. And you somehow think saying this makes you sound like you know what you’re talking about
You contradicted yourself in back to back quotes. Congrats. Crouser gets paid shite by throwing here, thank you for proving my point.
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His peers are not on his level or anywhere close to it. Tell me again how that’s because he chooses to compete for Sweden even though his coach and training environment is still mostly the same as it has been his entire life, which led to him winning world youth championships and setting world junior records when he was in high school in Lafayette.
I detailed how Crouser has almost identical achievements. That's as close to "on the same level" as you're going to get bud. And yes, he splits his time training between here and Sweden. What an astute observation you made.
You should work on your reading comprehension. You read English like Mondo reads Swedish.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:29 pm to Ingeniero
He won the Jerringpriset in 2020 (most accomplished athlete of the year in Sweden). So, he should be doing Raisin Caines commercials in Lafayette instead? Better to reign in heaven than to live in hell.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:10 am to Ingeniero
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I said he developed the way he did because he competed for Sweden since 2015.
No you said he developed the way he did and got the sponsorships he did by competing for Sweden, as if that is the only way those things could’ve happened.
And that’s a completely moronic statement. No different than saying he wouldn’t be where he is right now had he attended Acadiana HS instead of Lafayette HS.
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Again, you can argue a HYPOTHETICAL that he would've done the same elsewhere, but he didn't. Your argument hinges on a "what if"
There is nothing about “competing for Sweden” that changed what his training and trajectory would’ve been at all prior to after he left LSU, and is only slightly different now. He is still training with his dad and based out of the US the majority of the time.
And please, bring up how he lives in Sweden during the summer so he can travel to meets in Europe easier, as if American athletes don’t do the exact same thing.
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Sprinters. Not relevant to this discussion.
Non-Swedish people that got great sponsorship deals and reached the pinnacles of their events. How is that possible?
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Europeans. Like Mondo. Which is my point.
But not from Sweden. How in the world are they so successful? And how does Warholm prove your point when you just said sprinters aren’t relevant to this discussion? Can’t even keep your retarded arguments straight
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didn't "throw out rule 40 to attempt to sound intelligent."
Yes, you did. That’s why you still have not addressed how it affects mondo’s puma and redbull sponsorships, or how American athlete’s contracts are impacted by it.
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Yes? that's why it matters. Because Sweden offered him better facilities, better treatment, etc. BEFORE he was the greatest in the world.
Tell us what Swedish facilities Mondo was using in Lafayette, Louisiana from 2015-2018. Tell us what Swedish trainers Mondo worked with when he was at lsu in 2019. You have no idea how any of this works, but in this case you don’t even have to. Simple common sense should be prevailing here.
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My entire point is that he was getting a better deal from Sweden, you dipshit.
Your entire point is pointless because by the time Mondo needed to use those magic facilities and trainers Sweden was providing he was already among the best in the world and had a large sponsorship agreement with Puma.
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Of course they wouldn't be paying him if he was jumping 17', you just made something up that has nothing to do with my argument, because you're dumb.
I’m dumb yet you’re the one over here arguing Sweden is paying him all this money out of the goodness of their heart and not because he’s the best in the world at what he does.
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You contradicted yourself in back to back quotes. Congrats. Crouser gets paid shite by throwing here, thank you for proving my point.
Please tell me you think American athletes aren’t allowed to compete in meets in Europe that pay money. Please.
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detailed how Crouser has almost identical achievements. That's as close to "on the same level" as you're going to get bud.
Crouser is not Mondo’s peer. Kendricks, Nielsen, Lightfoot, and the other pole vaulters are his peers, and none of them are on his level.
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And yes, he splits his time training between here and Sweden. What an astute observation you made.
You mean the observation about all those awesome Swedish training facilities in Lafayette, Louisiana you credit for his success? I thought so too.
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You should work on your reading comprehension. You read English like Mondo reads Swedish.
Tell us again about the “USATF coach” he was going to have to leave his dad for if he competed for the US. What is that coach’s name? What other athletes does he coach?
Tell us gain how we would’ve had to pay his own expenses as a US athlete.
Tell us again how you don’t understand what top 3 finishers with the event standard at the qualifying meet means.
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