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re: Max Johnson looks the best overall

Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:26 pm to
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Burrows first TD to Chase against Bama in 19 was similar. No criticizing that. Lol


THAT was an underthrow. Chase bailed him out.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:27 pm to
I get the feeling that the Max Johnson fans want to run off TJ before he starts putting things together and vaults past Johnson.

TJ is clearly the most talented passer on the team and anyone pushing for him to transfer doesn't truly like LSU.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:28 pm to
TJ has too far to go. He simply cannot throw with touch.
Posted by ATLTiger
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:31 pm to
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TJ is clearly the most talented passer on the team and anyone pushing for him to transfer doesn't truly like LSU.



I like TJ, but I don't see him being the most talented passer at all. Biggest arm, sure, but there's more to it than that.

That said, I'm all for him staying at LSU and developing. You never know when you'll need him, or how much he'll improve.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278505 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:32 pm to
I think the ball was good. Boutte made a great play on it. The defender was way out of position though
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:39 pm to
Johnson had better numbers than Brennan but he got his against the 2, while Brennan got it against the 1s. It's very very close, but no I'd still start Brennan as of now.
Posted by sml71
Run if you hear banjos.
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:45 pm to
Barring a complete collapse between now and fall camp, it's Brennan and it's not even close. Brennan looked like a senior. Johnson looks like a very good true sophomore. Give him a year to watch and learn and he's going to be very, very good.

Right now, he's just a little too John Fourcade-ish for me.
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:45 pm to
Johnson has 2 fourth Qtr game winning drives in the SEC
Posted by sicboy
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:47 pm to
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Johnson has 2 fourth Qtr game winning drives in the SEC



Let's hold our horses on that first one. He was aided by a shoe throw and a hell of a kick by York.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:51 pm to
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TJ has too far to go. He simply cannot throw with touch.


I think TJ is in the toughest position of the 4 QBs because he came here the most raw. That said, you are picking on the wrong problem. He had big issues with touch in games last year, but he had several good underneath throws today where he showed a lot of improvement on his touch.

The problem that remains is that he is still highly inconsistent with accuracy and he still makes some poor reads. We saw that with a few off target throws and his pick today.

As for the poster above claiming there is some kind of agenda, the majority of us don’t have one. I would love to see TJ stay here and try to develop, but he’s facing a really uphill battle. Max is the same age and has similar talent and more polish today. Nuss needs to learn, but he is more athletic, has a good arm and made some great throws today (but also some poor ones). Then you have Walker Howard coming in, who is an even bigger prospect than Nuss.

I don’t want TJ to leave, but I can’t blame him if he does. There will be a number of programs in G5 and FBS where he can walk in the door and start day one. Then he would have years to develop on the field. He just doesn’t have a great shot at that here. That’s no knock on him. It’s just the reality of the situation.
This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 3:53 pm
Posted by jeff70121
Metairie
Member since Dec 2011
4312 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 3:53 pm to
MJ is your starter.
Posted by Quesadilla Superman
SELA
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 4:08 pm to
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Barring a complete collapse between now and fall camp, it's Brennan and it's not even close. Brennan looked like a senior. Johnson looks like a very good true sophomore. Give him a year to watch and learn and he's going to be very, very good.

Right now, he's just a little too John Fourcade-ish for me.



Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30027 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 4:12 pm to
Brennan is in year 5 and still can’t separate. He is what he is.

Johnson has the better upside and we can do more on offense with him

You go with the guy that’s here for 2 more years for sure
This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 4:36 pm
Posted by rumination
Member since Jan 2020
726 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 4:14 pm to
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Let's hold our horses on that first one. He was aided by a shoe throw and a hell of a kick by York.


LSU had like half their team missing at this point in a game they were multiple TD underdogs.

Max never had Gilbert or Marshall?

He did wonders with Boutte though. They set a receiving record in a game. Having three elite studs like that again would be nice.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20427 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 4:19 pm to
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Brennan is in year 5 and still can’t separate
This is the way I view it, to be honest.

If Brennan wins the job, I want him to be significantly better than Johnson doing so. If it's a tossup, I want the guy with room to grow and mature.

I didn't get a chance to watch the whole thing, but I wasn't very impressed with Brennan when I saw him. That TD was kinda flukish, the defender was playing it to be about 5 yds deeper than it was- and it was on a gimmick "fake kneel" play to begin with. If they call some of those 'sacks' I saw in the 1st half, they should call Brennan squatting the same way.
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
14780 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 4:46 pm to
Add in, Brennan admitted last year that he learns way more on the field, not as much in film study.

That's a problem. He's in his 5th year, with relatively little snaps/little on-field experience.

Now take Joe Burrow, who had the Bengals playbook/reads/progressions down, in one month, over zoom meetings and was ready for camp to make muscle memory/timing with WRs. He wasn't learning reads/progressions on the field.
Posted by Dennis Celery
Member since Apr 2021
708 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 4:55 pm to
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I just think Myles don't have it.


So sick and tired of y’all saying this shite
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
15824 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 5:02 pm to
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TJ is clearly the most talented passer on the team and anyone pushing for him to transfer doesn't truly like LSU.

Posted by jb21lsu
NWLA
Member since Mar 2018
2635 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 5:05 pm to
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Let's hold our horses on that first one. He was aided by a shoe throw and a hell of a kick by York


And MB had 1st and goal at the one and couldn't get it in with 4 plays. Doesn't matter how it happened, it happened.

MB had great stats on his 3 games.

Max has two W's in his two starts. Give me the wins over the stats all day long.
Posted by Dennis Celery
Member since Apr 2021
708 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 5:10 pm to
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And MB had 1st and goal at the one and couldn't get it in with 4 plays. Doesn't matter how it happened, it happened.


Oh so he didn’t do a good enough job of handing the ball off four straight plays?
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