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re: Max Johnson looks the best overall

Posted on 4/18/21 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 12:17 pm to
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But he’s got top notch competition and coaching at LSU. He needs to stay, compete and develop as much as possible


It’s difficult to develop when you aren’t playing
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 12:23 pm to
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The “it” factor to lead a 1-2 team apparently.


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These are the ponts scored under Myles in the first three games he started.
Apparently you think Myles is responsible for points scored against our D.

You people are just plain dumb.

Ask yourself what did Burrow and LSU avg in 2019.

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This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 12:28 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 12:41 pm to
Brennan reminds me of old Saints QB Jim Everett. Above average arm and racked up a lot of great stats when it didn’t matter.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278400 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 12:46 pm to
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Apparently you think Myles is responsible for points scored against our D.


No, but the D is responsible for a lot of Myles points, via defensive TDs & short-field turnovers
Posted by jb21lsu
NWLA
Member since Mar 2018
2632 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 12:50 pm to
Well he didn't hand it off 4 straight plays. He was 0 for 2 on 3rd and 4th and goal.

He was the Qb that was playing and we went 0-10 on third down.

How bout you know what happened in that game before you start talking out your arse?

MB should not start. He is not the leader Max is. He has more arm talent but that doesn't make him a better QB
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64346 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:00 pm to
The D was f@cking horrible. Period. Or am I wrong?

Did the D help Burrow in def TD's or field position in 2019?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278400 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:10 pm to
The defense had a very favorable turnover margin for Brennan, and he shite the bed with it. He was terrible on 3rd down too. He was not great
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29862 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:13 pm to
Brennan is more likely to hit a long explosive play. Has better arm talent and fitting balls into tight spots. But sometimes he stands back there and when the pocket collapses he does not have a good pocket presence and awareness imo. Both Johnson and Nuss are better there I think. Johnson is close on the other stuff and will def push to start. Could go either way I think.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64346 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:27 pm to
Yes. Those are some of the stats for Myles in his first three starts. He never got a chance to get better.

Lets look at Joe's first three starts of his first season.

Game 1 11-24 140
Game 2 10-20 151
Game 3 15-34 249

Joe's second year as starter 2019

Game 1 23-27 278
Game 2 31-39 471
Game 3 21-24 373
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18137 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:29 pm to
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Lets look at Joe's first three starts of his first season.

Game 1 11-24 140
Game 2 10-20 151
Game 3 15-34 249

Joe's second year as starter 2019

Game 1 23-27 278
Game 2 31-39 471
Game 3 21-24 373
as with any statistic, context is required!!

In Burrow's first season, he was under Ensminger's shitty offense.

Second season, it was Brady's.

Thus the difference.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64346 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:40 pm to
Yes.
Why I posted the improvement in 2019.

Does our offense look better this year than last?

Did our offence last year look like the one from 2019?
Context and all.
Posted by Bayoubengal205
Member since Nov 2016
926 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 8:27 pm to
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It’s difficult to develop when you aren’t playing


Tell that to Joe Burrow.
While nothing replaces live reps, there’s a reason there’s a thing called “practice”.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278400 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 8:41 pm to
Ensminger made burrow so average in 2018 that you forgot that he even played that year, didn’t you
Posted by LSU Delts
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2548 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 9:06 pm to
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Myles was the highest graded deep passer per pff last year when he played, something Max game lacks.Something to consider.


How many deep passes a game do we throw verses short to intermediate pass? Something to consider.
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 9:07 pm
Posted by Mista911
Member since Oct 2020
41 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 9:36 pm to
I don't like any of the quarterbacks we are stuck with mediocrity until next season... I believe Howard will be better than all these bums..
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10412 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 9:52 pm to
Max and Brennan will both play this year

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118782 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 11:31 pm to
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Ensminger made burrow so average in 2018 that you forgot that he even played that year, didn’t you


Coach E was the type of coordinator that did a goof job on the first 10-12 pre-scripted plays. Coach E was not good at game time adjustments. Without Brady he was lost in terms of making adjustments. There is a skill to recognizing defenses and making play calling adjustments quickly. That’s what Brady provided and a skill Coach E lacked. One of the starkest game time examples of this was the touchdown pass to CEH just before the half against bama two years ago. That was just a thing of beauty and the perfect play call.
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 11:33 pm
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27225 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 12:37 am to
Johnson made at least 2 throws no one else on the roster could make.

They were both touch passes. One was to kirklin on the right sideline.

I honestly think max johnson starts now. I thought it would be brennan but max johnson just looks so calm in the offense.
His legs are just an added benefit
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
7315 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:47 am to
He also has a td pass to Boutte that was called back
Posted by rumination
Member since Jan 2020
726 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:55 am to
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41
41

These are the points scored under Myles in the first three games he started.
Apparently you think Myles is responsible for points scored against our D.

You people are just plain dumb.

Ask yourself what did Burrow and LSU avg in 2019.

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Burrow would have avg those same stats and then some with LSU's horrific D. And against those terrible teams.

Ever wonder why Brennan had stats like that?

The historically horrific defense is why LSU was putting up so many points. They had a ton of opportunities and teams got up so big, ofc they were playing laxed on D.


Sustaining drives, converting 3rd down are far more important than garbage yards in losing efforts. Both for offense and for your defense. I say this, because so many people are quick to point out Brennan's record crushing yardage stats. Yeah historic because the D was historic.

He was in the perfect position to light up stats in losing efforts.

I still like Brennan's big arm, especially down the field, but he has to improve on 3rd down and the shorter-range passing.
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