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re: Many of us take constant shots at McM, but if he can't find a way to beat mid Longhorns...

Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:16 pm to
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LOL. Both the TAM and Bama games were winnable. Geeze it's not that complicated. T
Every game is winnable, both teams start with 0 points.
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TX ain't Auburn or Bama and it's at home so of course they have a shot at beating them.
Of course we have a chance to beat them. They'll be favorites on the road though.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:16 pm to
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They competed on the road with TAM and Bama

There it is! The only metric of success for mcpuffs
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32021 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 2:34 pm to
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Both the TAM and Bama games were winnable.


I'm assuming "winnable" does not = "should have won". On that basis, I'll agree with you on Alabama. LSU was in that game throughout and even though Alabama separated a bit late, LSU was still able to get it to a two score (6 point) with a minute to play. A few things go differently and LSU may have pulled the massive upset.

The A&M game? Nah. A&M created some space (9 points) at about the 8 minute mark in the second half and the game was never really doubt from that point on. A&M had a 14 point lead with 3:30. At no point in the last 7-8 minutes did that game ever feel "winnable".

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I believe Reed could have made a big difference in both games including Vandy and Auburn


I disagree with the significance of the difference he could have made, but we've been down this road before. No reason to rehash.

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If LSU can put 2 halves together yes they have a shot at winning more games.


I agree. But you can say that about ANY team. Any skepticism LSU fans have is that over the course of now 86 games under McMahon they have RARELY done that. Hell, even in the non-conf slate LSU rarely put together 2 good halves. They trailed at HT vs. Alabama S., Charleston So, UCF, Northwestern St., Florida St...only to then have good second halves to get wins. On the flip side they had first half leads vs. Pitt, SMU and Florida Gulf Coast only to play poorly in the second half. More often than not it seems like if LSU has a good first half it's almost guaranteed they will have a poor second half. Or, LSU has a bad first half and/or first part of the second half that digs them into too deep of a hole from which to recover once they do start playing well. It's different paths to losing, but still losing nonetheless. That's why in 56(ish) opportunities vs. power conf. opponents over the course of nearly 3 seasons LSU has only won by more than 10 points on FOUR occasions. The times they "put together" two good halves are very few and far between.
Posted by Lapaz
Member since Dec 2018
707 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:13 pm to
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0% chance bud. We have 12 wins half way through the season lol we won’t even make the NIT much less the dance


How is there a 0% chance they get into the top 50 in NET, when they are currently 54th? The top 45 usually get in the tournament and most of the next 5 as well.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 3:15 pm
Posted by TigersJump
In a land far far away
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:09 pm to
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Never say never. If he’s retained we will be having this same discussion next year .


The one good thing will be that Will Wade will have moved on from McNeese to his greener pastures, which won’t be LSU and all of the Wade ball lickers can go into a depressed hiding.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19035 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:11 pm to
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that should start the gears in motion, correct?


They’ve been in motion since the 0-3 start.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58728 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:17 pm to
Well it obvious they don’t follow basketball. Anyone who thinks some arbitrary NET ranking for a team that’s likely going to go at best 3-15 in conference is getting them anywhere near the dance just doesn’t know what they’re talking about. And again this greatest conference ever narrative is just silly. The SEC is good and very deep this season but a lot of the number they’re getting into the dance has to do with the rest of the country being way down more than the SEC being historic. 4-5 years ago the big 10 got 10-11 teams in but nobody thought they were the greatest conference ever because people who watch bball knew better. The 2019 SEC had 4 teams that would win thus conference. The 1994 through 1996 SEC would dogwalk these teams. They’re using a comparison of this year in place of an alltime comparison because again they don’t follow basketball.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 4:19 pm
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
881 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:28 pm to
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In a normal year, the last place team would have a NET well below 100, and that does suck, but LSU is currently 54th, and South Carolina is the cellar dweller at 77th, which is not horrible. Even with our horrible record, LSU has a chance to get into the top 50 in NET and get an at large



I don't disagree. NET is everything. 8 wins get you in. with 8 SEC wins the net will necessarily be pretty good. 7 more wins needed, in 11 more games. stranger things have happened than going 7-4
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
5904 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:01 pm to
Maybe he will just quit, realizing that he just doesn't have what it takes and he loves LSU so much, he doesn't want to keep dragging the program down and further.
What would the odds be on that happening?
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32021 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:15 pm to
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NET, when they are currently 54th?


They are 66th

LINK
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
12729 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:07 pm to
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We'll see but he will be back next year and should get Reed back and if he can keep most of this core group together, sign his 2026 class and find an SEC starting PG then he will need to produce next year or it will be his last.
"'Just wait until next Year."

That's the Battle Cry for the entire (And TRULY MISERABLE) Pump Lump Cheerleader MA Nation.

McTepper (McHallman wannabee) will be gone after THIS season if things continue on present course.

The ship will hit a Giant Iceberg and sink & the Captain will go down with the Ship.

Sorry, LSU Athletic Program Sycophants. ( ) Another one of your worshipped and idolized gods will be out the door.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29997 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:29 pm to
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We're going to win maybe 2-4 SEC games this season, everyone knows it at this point. McMahon will not be fired


We need a few NBA draft pick level recruits or transfers. I actually think CMM is pretty good at development and game coaching. We were always going to be fighting for our lives this season even if we had Ward and Reed. Without them we are what we are………a core of guys that will be pretty good as upperclassmen but are not there yet, combined with transfers that are ok not elite. This is the strongest SEC basketball conference that has ever played a season, we can’t win with what we have right now. And yes that is on CMM and rightfully so.
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
20336 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:55 pm to
Come on “ He’s a nice guy “ Winning isn’t everything… Woody
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 10:11 pm to
If we lose tomorrow he should be out the door before monday
Posted by LSUfan2008
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
2545 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 10:15 pm to
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If we lose tomorrow he should be out the door before monday

It really doesn’t make a difference if we let him go then or after we lose in the SEC tournament, but there will need to be some planning and feeling out potential candidates to take the job.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 10:16 pm to
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We need a few NBA draft pick level recruits or transfers. I actually think CMM is pretty good at development and game coaching


it's quite the opposite... recruiting is good. in game coaching is abysmal.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 10:17 pm to
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It really doesn’t make a difference if we let him go then or after we lose in the SEC tournament, but there will need to be some planning and feeling out potential candidates to take the job.


win loss wise sure.... woody firing him mid season though shows the fans he actually cares about MBB and would do a lot to increase interest.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:32 am to
Early prediction for tonight's game: Texas 75, LSU 62
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
29275 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:38 am to
In normal times he would be out after his overall performance at LSU, plus a home loss to a very average Texas team.

But .. this is the NEW normal, and unfortunately he'll still be here on Monday morning, and the rest of the season, and all of next season as well. The disgust is rapidly being quelled by a wave of overwhelming indifference.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59289 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:54 am to
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On Saturday, that should start the gears in motion, correct?



The decision is a financial one...not a performance based or an assessment of the likelihood of future success.

So, no. A loss to Texas would change nothing.
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