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re: Man on behalf of Gloria Scott, asked LSU for money in Guice Superdome incident

Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by sicboy
Member since Nov 2010
79102 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:02 pm to
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Looks like it was a money grab and not an actual grab by Guice.


Actually looks like someone trying to take advantage of a situation. Doesn't exonerate Guice in the least.
Posted by ChanceOfRainIsNever
Far from Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:02 pm to
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if Verge implying he was going to check the guy out or that Nike would pay him?


That’s how I took it, that Verge was implying that they would check the guy out through Nike or get Nike to put the screws to him. Verge probably felt like they were being extorted at that point
Posted by 18handicap
Member since Jul 2014
6154 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:03 pm to
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Scott testified March 26 before the Legislature, describing her encounter with Guice during a high school basketball game at the Superdome,


They play high school basketball in the Superdome? That one mistake represents the normal reporting from the Advocate.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:03 pm to
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Nike to which Verge seemed to indicate that they could find out if the guy was lying because LSU has friends at Nike who could confirm if this guy was telling the truth.



maybe, but im not sure why that would be relevant to what they were discussing
Posted by sicboy
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:03 pm to
Or was it Verge saying he had connections with Nike and could hook him up through them if they left LSU out of it?
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13994 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:04 pm to
What a surprise.
Its been a shake down from the beginning.
Posted by ChanceOfRainIsNever
Far from Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2732 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:06 pm to
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Doesn't exonerate Guice in the least.


Not at all but it doesn’t paint Gloria Scott in the best light either. There’s no way this Williams guy called LSU looking for money and she didn’t have some idea what he was up to. That also adds another angle to why lawyers and NOPD wouldn’t touch her case.
Posted by ChanceOfRainIsNever
Far from Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2732 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:07 pm to
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Or was it Verge saying he had connections with Nike and could hook him up through them if they left LSU out of it?




Also plausible. Either way the whole thing stinks
Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
4069 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:08 pm to
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Or was it Verge saying he had connections with Nike and could hook him up through them if they left LSU out of it?


This is how I read it. Nike arranges for the exchange of 100K amd LSU has plausible deniability. Of course I’m cynical like that and Verge could have been just letting the guy know he wasn’t intimidated by the extortion attempt.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:09 pm to
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On the phone with Williams in 2017, Segar and Ausberry asked him over and over again to give a monetary figure of how much money he wanted for Scott, according to the recording of the call.



Unless of course they were straight up setting him up.


I wonder if it is protocol to record calls in the athletic department.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33898 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:09 pm to
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maybe, but im not sure why that would be relevant to what they were discussing


We don't have the actual tape of the conversation, so we can only go off of what is being reported...second hand. But read this statement again


quote:

Ausberry then asked Williams to confirm that he’s an AAU basketball coach ‘with Nike,’ who sponsors some AAU teams. Williams said that he was.


Sounds to me like Verge was skeptical of this guy's claim that he was an "AAU coach with Nike" and was suggesting LSU knows people at Nike who could confirm that fact.

I'm mean, this is some random guy calling to shakedown the university for $100k. It's not that farfetched an idea to think the first step in responding to trying to figure out exactly who this guy is
Posted by The Melt
Metairie
Member since Apr 2018
984 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:12 pm to
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in any event, experts who represent sexual harassment victims say that demands for money in the wake of harassment are common, expected and do not diminish the credibility of a victim’s testimony.


This is such BS. I've worked in this field. EVERYTHING the "victim" says or does right, wrong, normal, peculiar, sane, insane, or otherwise these "experts" write off as okay, justified or normal after an incident.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:13 pm to
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I'm mean, this is some random guy calling to shakedown the university for $100k. It's not that farfetched an idea to think the first step in responding to trying to figure out exactly who this guy is



Right, but my point is why do you have to verify who he is unless you are considering paying him out.



Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15766 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:14 pm to
My initial thought with the Verge quote was either he's saying "we have a lot of friends at Nike" and LSU can influence them to positively or negatively impact that AAU team.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87176 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:14 pm to
Because you need to know if you can believe the guy at all first before you do anything.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
10715 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:15 pm to
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LSU is not going to pay money in this situation


This had nothing to do with LSU. I don't understand people's thoughts on this.

He wasn't there for LSU. He was at a HS game. What does LSU have to do with it? If any student sexually harasses and someone outside of LSU does LSU have to discipline them? No.

ETA: Sexual Harassment Laws are employer laws and school laws.
This post was edited on 4/5/21 at 1:12 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293682 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:16 pm to
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He told Athletic Department officials that Scott would go public with her story if the university did not pay her $100,000 or withhold Guice from the Citrus Bowl.


fricking extortion.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287929 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:18 pm to
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What does LSU have to do with it? If any student sexually harasses and someone outside of LSU does LSU have to discipline them? No.



there are good takes in this thread, this isnt one of them
Posted by The Melt
Metairie
Member since Apr 2018
984 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:21 pm to
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quote:
He told Athletic Department officials that Scott would go public with her story if the university did not pay her $100,000 or withhold Guice from the Citrus Bowl.


fricking extortion.


And if LSU doesn't pay and sits Guice instead, the media starts asking questions and Scott eventually gets her story out then sues. They use the fact LSU sat Guice as an admission of wrongdoing by Guice and LSU.
Posted by ramchallenge
Member since Nov 2009
3525 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:23 pm to
Grandma and Williams want some $$$... EXTORTION!
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