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re: LSU traditions, and why our governor doesn’t give a sh’t about them.

Posted on 11/8/24 at 6:46 am to
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6391 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 6:46 am to
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Too bad it wasn't a blood thirsty pitbull


So you acknowledge that animals an be violent, without provocation? And also, you wish for me to be mortally wounded because you disagree with me? Interesting that you feel you have taken the high road over me.

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Your IQ is on full display in this thread and it doesn't look good


Well, it would be difficult to from your perspective to discern what does or does not look good, when your judgment is impaired by such reckless anger.
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21591 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 6:48 am to
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Because animals are not emotional beings.


Just because you keep repeating this doesnt make it true.
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
989 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 6:54 am to
Go back to the democratic underground you troll.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
80075 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 6:55 am to
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Because animals are not emotional beings.

How do you know that? Care to back it up with any data?
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
9659 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 6:56 am to
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I'm talking about emotions. Having a reaction to physical pain is an automatic response to any living thing that has working nerves. Emotions come from the soul, which animals do not possess.


oh, so you’ve never had a pet dog?

dogs absolutely feel emotions.

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I can remember as a kid getting bit by my dog while trying to pet him, because I did so while he was eating. Does that sound like a rational thinking being to you?


perfectly rational.
i’d stab you with my fork if you tried to pet me while i was eating.


Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
12496 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 7:03 am to
God dang some of yall are thin skinned as hell about this.

It isn’t that big of a deal!
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
12496 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 7:04 am to
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Holy frick


Do you know how most animals die in the wild?
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
5283 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 7:21 am to
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Go kick a dog and see how the dog reacts.

I'm glad you brought this up. You are basically comparing the capacity for feelings and emotions in dogs to tigers. I agree with you that they are comparable. So why are dogs allowed in these horrible torture chambers we humans call stadiums? How are these dogs like Uga and Reville not affected after hours of noise torture on Saturdays? How is it possible for these emotionally intelligent animals to take the abuse week after week?
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
11168 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 7:25 am to
All this bitching and whining is enough to make me not want a tiger in the stadium. The melting over this is equal to the left melting over Trump.
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8405 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 7:27 am to
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I'm glad you brought this up. You are basically comparing the capacity for feelings and emotions in dogs to tigers. I agree with you that they are comparable. So why are dogs allowed in these horrible torture chambers we humans call stadiums? How are these dogs like Uga and Reville not affected after hours of noise torture on Saturdays? How is it possible for these emotionally intelligent animals to take the abuse week after week?


Do you really need this distinction spelled out for you? Really?

It’s so shocking what people will post without regard to the use of common sense or basic intelligence.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
12496 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 7:30 am to
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All this bitching and whining is enough to make me not want a tiger in the stadium. The melting over this is equal to the left melting over Trump.


It really is crazy.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6391 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 7:36 am to
What you've posted is more of the same that has been stated for years. This isn't new research. Once again, they are trying to assign human-like emotion to basic reactions in animals. If an animal physically feels bad, either because it's sick, or cold or hungry, or whatever the case may be, they might appear to be distressed, but how does one assign an emotion to that, rather than keeping in mind that animals understand threats to their survival? There is never an answer. It is simply inferred and accepted that it must be an emotion.

My comment about them bonding with their caretakers are not contrary to my point, as you claim. Because, remember, that after animals have left their mothers, there is no co-dependence that remains. They bond because they know that their mother is their life source. That is their instinct. Same with their caretakers. If someone is feeding them and continuously demonstrating from their birth that they are not a threat to the animal, then the animal does not perceive a threat. Because animals that are raised with humans never learn how to live in the wild, they are dependent on their caretakers. This is not my opinion, but what people who I would otherwise disagree with on most other things about animals would say.

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It’s only incoherent because you are ignoring the facts. LSU has to have a lot of special permits and accreditation to have a live tiger on campus. Part of maintaining that accreditation requires that LSU, among other things, actually demonstrates that it gives a shite about the wellbeing of the the animal. See if you can figure out the logical leap there instead of limiting your thought process to “me want tiger to roar in stadium.”


I'm not at all ignorant of the facts. The burden is on people like PETA to demonstrate how a tiger's well-being is adversely affected by being wheeled out in a cage for a little bit, while otherwise being treated like an animal king. I've heard all of the arguments about the crowd spooking the animal, because it isn't used to it. Well, that is why you bring them up from the beginning in those environments. LSU is bringing in a different tiger from somewhere else just for this game, as I understand it. Of course, this hasn't stopped PETA from complaining. There are live mascots all over the country, in Colorado, Texas, UGA, A&M, to name a few. Those animals don't look spooked. Their handlers have to know what they're doing. And if LSU brings a tiger into the stadium, as they have before, they have to know what they're doing. Who is PETA to decide what's ethical?

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See above. And also note that you have provided no evidence at all to support anything you’ve stated, other than your own clearly ignorant opinions.


So you want me to show you evidence for something that I'm saying doesn't exist? You realize that's what you're asking right? What I've stated, that you call my "opinions" only happens to be observational "evidence" from all of recorded history. It is a very recent phenomenon that people have started trying to claim that physical reactions to different situations were the same as human emotions. I hear people say that their dog "loves" them because they lick their face every time they see them. If their dog loves them, then why does the dog eat the human's food as soon as they walk away from their plate? We seem to be redefining what emotions are. Dogs lick your face, because that's what they do. I go to a friends house and see their dog for the first time, and it wants to lick my face. Does it love me? Is it happy to see me? It doesn't even know me.

So I'm asking the animal "experts" to prove to me how they can discern such things. All I see is "research suggests", but the research also consists of words like "might" and "seems". Very subjective terms for something that is so "widely accepted".






Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
37692 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 7:44 am to
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You are a gay.



You're a newb with no real sense of tradition. And no ability to put forth a rational argument for your side so you resort to ad hominem attacks.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
37692 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 7:49 am to
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The melting over this is equal to the left melting over Trump.



This is a poorly thought-out, lazy comparison.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6391 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 7:51 am to
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oh, so you’ve never had a pet dog?

dogs absolutely feel emotions.


I have. You just responded to me talking about one I had as a kid. And how do you prove a dog has emotions? If you beat him, he's not going to trust you, because animals were designed with the instincts to detect threats. That's not the same as sadness. If you treat an animal well, it knows you aren't a threat, and it sees you as it's source for all of it's needs. So it comes and sits on your lap. That is perfectly consistent with an animal instinct. An emotion is something else entirely.

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perfectly rational.
i’d stab you with my fork if you tried to pet me while i was eating.



Yes, because you're a human, and normal humans don't pet other humans. But animals generally love it. As a kid, I didn't understand that my dog wouldn't like it when eating. But, despite the fact that I just handed him his food, he cared about me so much in his loving doggy way, that he bit me for daring to gently pet him after doing so.

I could have deduced that my dog was bipolar, but instead I used rational reasoning and decided that he must be an animal who only thinks about himself, and wants me to give him what he needs and get out of his way. And I learned to never pet an animal while they're eating ever again.
This post was edited on 11/8/24 at 7:56 am
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58310 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 7:56 am to
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He is a slimy politician that understands that he can play on the emotions of a passionate fan base.


Aside from a few retarded fans on this website, nobody was even asking for this to happen. Hes just butthurt from LSU telling him no.

The news said the Tiger left Florida on Thursday so it’s likely sitting in a trailer in some hotel parking lot for the next few days
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11693 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 7:58 am to
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Metaloctopus

This “animals don’t have emotions” thing is such a weird hill to die on.

Is fear an emotion?
Posted by Remulan
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2014
888 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 8:04 am to
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Metaloctopus


Bro, you convinced us you were retarded 2 pages ago, you don't have to keep trying.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
31589 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 8:06 am to
I think we’re going to lose the game now. Talk about bad vibes doing this.
Posted by Lsutigerturner
Member since Dec 2016
6778 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 8:07 am to
Who cares bring your whingeing somewhere else.
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