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re: LSU suspended their coach based on nothing but a Pete Thamel story.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 6:44 am to FightingTigers138
Posted on 4/14/19 at 6:44 am to FightingTigers138
Make no mistake people, this was a CYA move by Alleva and King masked as insubordination.
This is all about a $9M buyout they have to pay Will Wade if they fire him w/o cause, or DON’T have to pay him if he comes in & gives them a good reason to.
His legal counsel advised him not to, & he followed that advice. The same advise Joe’s attorney would have given him if the roles were reversed.
Coach Will Wade has NOT been charged with anything by the FBI.
CWW is not under investigation by the NCAA.
CWW was subpenoed by the defense attorneys for Dawkins & Co.
Lawyers for FBI have tried to deny his testimony for being allowed and will be granted this request.
There’s nothing to see here, so move along except LSU hasn’t had a head basketball coach for a month at THE most critical time to have one.
Who takes accountability for this mess??????
This is all about a $9M buyout they have to pay Will Wade if they fire him w/o cause, or DON’T have to pay him if he comes in & gives them a good reason to.
His legal counsel advised him not to, & he followed that advice. The same advise Joe’s attorney would have given him if the roles were reversed.
Coach Will Wade has NOT been charged with anything by the FBI.
CWW is not under investigation by the NCAA.
CWW was subpenoed by the defense attorneys for Dawkins & Co.
Lawyers for FBI have tried to deny his testimony for being allowed and will be granted this request.
There’s nothing to see here, so move along except LSU hasn’t had a head basketball coach for a month at THE most critical time to have one.
Who takes accountability for this mess??????
This post was edited on 4/14/19 at 6:46 am
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 6:56 am to Higgysmalls
bullshite, why would he, see bruce pearl, you stupid as heck
Posted on 4/14/19 at 7:15 am to Cajunomics
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And lastly, how much did he pay said players? Specifics?
Apparently not enough, the young man declared for the draft to make some dough.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 7:23 am to Irish LSU Fan
Yeah, ok Joe.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 10:18 am to FightingTigers138
quote:-- Daniel Kahneman.
WYSIATI
Posted on 4/14/19 at 10:42 am to FightingTigers138
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Are you saying that the NCAA and the FBI are breaking the law? Do you have evidence to support this? Thats a pretty bold thing to say on a public forum.
Do you honestly believe there is no way for the FBI and the NCAA to share information without breaking the law? One way (I would think) is for the FBI to share a "summary" of the wiretaps. The new NCAA compliance handbook clearly states they may accept the findings of law enforcement/other investigations. Will the FBI "hand over" the wiretaps? Maybe, maybe not. However, if the FBI determines that bribery (this is what they are interested in according to the media) has occurred, they could legally share that finding with the NCAA.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 10:46 am to Tigerik
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Make no mistake people, this was a CYA move by Alleva and King masked as insubordination.
This is all about a $9M buyout they have to pay Will Wade if they fire him w/o cause, or DON’T have to pay him if he comes in & gives them a good reason to.
His legal counsel advised him not to, & he followed that advice. The same advise Joe’s attorney would have given him if the roles were reversed.
Coach Will Wade has NOT been charged with anything by the FBI.
CWW is not under investigation by the NCAA.
CWW was subpenoed by the defense attorneys for Dawkins & Co.
Lawyers for FBI have tried to deny his testimony for being allowed and will be granted this request.
There’s nothing to see here, so move along except LSU hasn’t had a head basketball coach for a month at THE most critical time to have one.
Who takes accountability for this mess??????
Irish and 14 say Wade because they don’t like him.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 10:54 am to Irish LSU Fan
Do you even constitution?
Seriously the NCAA working with the FBI is like any normal citizen working with the FBI. The FBI doesn’t work with you. The release of FBI information to one citizen over another is a civil rights issue. Specifically the 4th amendment. If the FBI is going to release information EVERYONE will get the same info. The NCAA, Wade, LSU and the general public are one in the same in terms of declassifying investigative files.
Seriously the NCAA working with the FBI is like any normal citizen working with the FBI. The FBI doesn’t work with you. The release of FBI information to one citizen over another is a civil rights issue. Specifically the 4th amendment. If the FBI is going to release information EVERYONE will get the same info. The NCAA, Wade, LSU and the general public are one in the same in terms of declassifying investigative files.
This post was edited on 4/14/19 at 11:04 am
Posted on 4/14/19 at 11:04 am to Irish LSU Fan
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However, if the FBI determines that bribery (this is what they are interested in according to the media) has occurred
The coaches caught taking bribes have already been arrested, see Auburn. You go to trial after the investigation, not before. Isn't a warrant required for a wiretap? If parts of a wiretap are not admissible in court and never become part of the public record what makes you think the FBI can give this private, privileged information to a non-LE entity just because they want it? Add in that the FBI couldn't give a rat's arse about NCAA rules and your scenario seems highly unlikely.
This post was edited on 4/14/19 at 11:06 am
Posted on 4/14/19 at 11:09 am to GumboPot
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Seriously the NCAA working with the FBI is like any normal citizen working with the FBI. The FBI doesn’t work with you. The release of FBI information to one citizen over another is a civil rights issue. Specifically the 4th amendment. If the FBI is going to release information EVERYONE will get the same info. The NCAA, Wade, LSU and the general public are one in the same in terms of declassifying investigative files.
Keep dreaming.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 11:10 am to Adajax
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The coaches caught taking bribes have already been arrested, see Auburn. You go to trial after the investigation, not before. Isn't a warrant required for a wiretap? If parts of a wiretap are not admissible in court and never become part of the public record what makes you think the FBI can give this private, privileged information to a non-LE entity just because they want it? Add in that the FBI couldn't give a rat's arse about NCAA rules and your scenario seems highly unlikely.
You go ahead and keep convincing yourself about all of this.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 11:15 am to Irish LSU Fan
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quote:
Seriously the NCAA working with the FBI is like any normal citizen working with the FBI. The FBI doesn’t work with you. The release of FBI information to one citizen over another is a civil rights issue. Specifically the 4th amendment. If the FBI is going to release information EVERYONE will get the same info. The NCAA, Wade, LSU and the general public are one in the same in terms of declassifying investigative files.
Keep dreaming.
He is exactly correct in what he stated. That’s just the law. Not sure if you actually know a damn thing about it. This isn’t a FOIA request you request. Of course, Firldon’s and Joe’s emails are and we should request all of them and force their hand.
This post was edited on 4/14/19 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 4/14/19 at 11:15 am to FightingTigers138
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LSU suspended their coach based on nothing but a Pete Thamel story.
No. Here is the email directly proving that you are talking out of your arse.
Will Wade wouldn't talk to LSU for 40 days simply over a Pete Thamel story?
Yea, it was the simple! fricking idiot
Posted on 4/14/19 at 11:16 am to Higgysmalls
I love the propaganda machine! Your fighting to make people actually believe this is all there was. He didn’t meet so suspend.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 11:20 am to Adajax
The FBI probably had a warrant on Dawkins to tap his wires. Wade just got caught up in the surveillance along with many other coaches.
What the Wade haters fail to see is that Wade is working WITH the FBI. They are on the same team.
The DOJ/FBI is accusing Dawkins of bribing colleges basketball program. The hurt parties are the colleges he was bribing.
Upon discovery the Dawkins defense team received the evidence that the FBI acquired. Part of the FBI’s evidence was the wire tap tapes. The judge ruled that the tapes were inadmissible. The Dawkins team disagrees and finds them exculpatory to their case. So they illegally leaked them to prompt a reaction out of LSU and/or Wade to change the circumstances where the judge would change his mind. The judge hasn’t changed his mind.
Right now only Dawkins, Alleva, FKA, 14 and Irish want the tapes in. The FBI/DOJ, Wade and LSU fans want the tape out. The judge is on Wade’s side.
What the Wade haters fail to see is that Wade is working WITH the FBI. They are on the same team.
The DOJ/FBI is accusing Dawkins of bribing colleges basketball program. The hurt parties are the colleges he was bribing.
Upon discovery the Dawkins defense team received the evidence that the FBI acquired. Part of the FBI’s evidence was the wire tap tapes. The judge ruled that the tapes were inadmissible. The Dawkins team disagrees and finds them exculpatory to their case. So they illegally leaked them to prompt a reaction out of LSU and/or Wade to change the circumstances where the judge would change his mind. The judge hasn’t changed his mind.
Right now only Dawkins, Alleva, FKA, 14 and Irish want the tapes in. The FBI/DOJ, Wade and LSU fans want the tape out. The judge is on Wade’s side.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 11:35 am to FightingTigers138
Yep embarrassing
Posted on 4/14/19 at 11:48 am to Lester Earl
That childish email from King potentially will costs LSU 10s of millions of dollars if the situation is not rectified real soon. You support that kind of myopic reaction? Personally I expect a higher level of executive skill to handle crisis a little better. But that’s just me.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 11:51 am to Tiger1988
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He is exactly correct in what he stated. That’s just the law.
So, can the FBI share a summary of the wiretaps? Can the FBI charge WW with bribery (or attempted bribery)? And if they do, will they keep that secret from everyone? As I said, I don't pretend to know everything about what Mark Emmert described as "working with the FBI." However, I think there may be more ways for these two entities to share certain information than we know. Do YOU KNOW everything about how they are working together? Do YOU KNOW everything about how information can be shared? BTW....how did we find out about the wiretaps in the first place? My point is that this kind of info usually finds a way of becoming public.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 11:53 am to GumboPot
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That childish email from King potentially will costs LSU 10s of millions of dollars if the situation is not rectified real soon. You support that kind of myopic reaction? Personally I expect a higher level of executive skill to handle crisis a little better. But that’s just me.
Yea, you're not dramatic at all.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 11:59 am to FightingTigers138
LSU admin is a disgrace.
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