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re: LSU has to show Les Miles the money: James Varney
Posted on 12/14/12 at 3:59 pm to theunknownknight
Posted on 12/14/12 at 3:59 pm to theunknownknight
quote:WHAT?
Putting aside the obvious rebuilding year in 2007 (something Miles didn't have to worry about in 2005) how many losses has Bama averaged since 2008?
You don't follow recruiting, do you? Saban didn't exactly leave LSU as loaded as you think when he left.
This post was edited on 12/14/12 at 4:01 pm
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Posted on 12/14/12 at 4:18 pm to theunknownknight
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I'll answer my own question: since Saban got the ball rolling at Bama:
LSU: 2.8 losses a season
Bama: 1.4 losses a season
Twice as many losses. I wonder where those extra losses are coming from these days?
Fire Miles and hire the guy that is guaranteed to beat Alabama every year.
Ok
Posted on 12/14/12 at 7:06 pm to Gray Tiger
Like I said in an early post in this thread. I admit that I accept the fact that we are on average a 2+ loss team and there are others here who will not.
I don't like it but I accept it. I have a harder time accepting the fact that we pay $5 million for a HC plus another nearly $3 or so for the assistants when we consistently lose > 1/4 of our conference games.
For some it seems as though it is just fine with them as long as there are other teams who also lose 2+ games per year. I guess we really aren't that far apart are we? I just admit it and some don't.
I don't like it but I accept it. I have a harder time accepting the fact that we pay $5 million for a HC plus another nearly $3 or so for the assistants when we consistently lose > 1/4 of our conference games.
For some it seems as though it is just fine with them as long as there are other teams who also lose 2+ games per year. I guess we really aren't that far apart are we? I just admit it and some don't.
This post was edited on 12/14/12 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 12/14/12 at 8:38 pm to theunknownknight
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How is that amusing?
It's amusing that you, an LSU fan supposely, want to compare how many losses a coach averages a yr by taking out a season in which a coach loss 6 games cause it doesn't fit your agenda.
As I said:
quote:
No school in the SEC or in big time college football has more wins in the last 8 seasons than LSU.
Jump though all the hoops you have a want to, but nothing you say is gonna change that every elite fact.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:35 pm to Tiger2763
quote:
Like I said in an early post in this thread. I admit that I accept the fact that we are on average a 2+ loss team and there are others here who will not.
Bullshiite. If you accepted it you wouldn't be in here whimpering like a kid that just had his lunch money taken away.
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I have a harder time accepting the fact that we pay $5 million for a HC plus another nearly $3 or so for the assistants when we consistently lose > 1/4 of our conference games.
You want to cut their pay? Is that what has your panties in a wad?
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For some it seems as though it is just fine with them as long as there are other teams who also lose 2+ games per year. I guess we really aren't that far apart are we? I just admit it and some don't.
The only thing that will dry your tears is a team that never loses?
And unicorns?
Take a few of these and get back with me in a week.
LINK
Posted on 12/14/12 at 11:31 pm to theunknownknight
quote:I'll bite and say '05 was an interruption in the reloading of talent and surfaced later.
Are you going to argue the flip side and say 2005 was a rebuilding year for Miles?
That '05 class of 13 signees, plus the loss of RP was felt a few years later when they would've been contributing as RS Jrs and Srs.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 11:34 pm to Tiger2763
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I don't like it but I accept it. I have a harder time accepting the fact that we pay $5 million for a HC plus another nearly $3 or so for the assistants when we consistently lose > 1/4 of our conference games.
Oh really? Then why are you still in here whining about something that you've already stated, twice counting this post, that you've "accepted?"
Posted on 12/14/12 at 11:43 pm to That LSU Guy
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You don't follow recruiting, do you? Saban didn't exactly leave LSU as loaded as you think when he left.
How many NFL players came out of LSU from 2005-2008 again? I'll hang up and listen.
This post was edited on 12/14/12 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 12/14/12 at 11:46 pm to Mayhawman
quote:
I'll bite and say '05 was an interruption in the reloading of talent and surfaced later. That '05 class of 13 signees, plus the loss of RP was felt a few years later when they would've been contributing as RS Jrs and Srs.
You act like RP died...he was KICKED OFF THE TEAM because he was a horrible recruit.
Posted on 12/15/12 at 12:06 am to theunknownknight
quote:Ah, but you're in the blame game to discredit LSU staff. Died, career injury, grades, drugs or personal is all the same to me.
You act like RP died...he was KICKED OFF THE TEAM because he was a horrible recruit.
The reason doesn't change the fact that LSU lost it's future starter.
And you must agree signing half a class equated to a rebuilding year later or you would've surely countered with some weak Miles jab.
Posted on 12/15/12 at 1:40 am to Fabius
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The disatisfaction with Miles doesn't stem from his won/loss record, but from the perception that his offensive failings are holding the team back from even greater accomplishments.
This!
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stho381
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The only difference between the two is that Bama got their mulligan last year and caught LSU flat.
Calling Lsu flat for that game is generous. I'd call the game plan uninspired and the lack of adjustments, especially considering the passing success that Lee had over the course of the season, infuriating. I'm not calling for Miles' head, but the vanilla offensive game planing and being risk adverse to the detriment of the team was very concerning for me as a fan. This tendency was prominent for the last half of the 2011 season and the first half of this season, but it appears that Miles and the offense have begun to open it up a little bit more starting with the Texas A&M game, which has thankfully continued. I am more optimistic about the LSU offense improving drastically next year than I was before the start of the season this year because of the inexplicable coaching decisions that were made towards the tail end of the 2011 season that culminated in the national championship game.
Posted on 12/15/12 at 4:45 am to meldawg399
Would you assholes making excuses about the schedule Shut Up. If Miles can get a new set of nuts and hire a proper offensive coord we either win last year or this year.
Miles better step up the offense to try and match the Def = Then we are really Elite!!!
He is a good coach-not elite.
His offense is too predictable and last years NCG was a poor excuse of a human being, coach, fan, he let all of us, LSU, his team, and himself down!!!
Miles better step up the offense to try and match the Def = Then we are really Elite!!!
He is a good coach-not elite.
His offense is too predictable and last years NCG was a poor excuse of a human being, coach, fan, he let all of us, LSU, his team, and himself down!!!
Posted on 12/15/12 at 7:54 am to Dubaitiger
Dubaitiger
LSU has to show Les Miles the money: James Varney
Would you a-holes making excuses about the schedule Shut Up. If Miles can get a new set of nuts and hire a proper offensive coord we either win last year or this year.
Miles better step up the offense to try and match the Def = Then we are really Elite!!!
He is a good coach-not elite.
His offense is too predictable and last years NCG was a poor excuse of a human being, coach, fan, he let all of us, LSU, his team, and himself down!!!
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Well put!
It makes me sick to my stomach to see how easily some here latch onto any excuse that hits the board. From that point on, it's the reason we lost! Everybody is against us! its not fair! Like cattle being herded to the feeding trough.
Use your god given brains! SEC schedules east vary from year to year for all of us. In 2010 and 2011 we had Vandy and Tenn followed by Kentucky and Tenn.
Now because someone else has them and we have tougher opponents: "It's a conspiracy created by the evil Satan and his disciples in the SEC HQ!"
My god! How ignorant are some of you?
LSU has to show Les Miles the money: James Varney
Would you a-holes making excuses about the schedule Shut Up. If Miles can get a new set of nuts and hire a proper offensive coord we either win last year or this year.
Miles better step up the offense to try and match the Def = Then we are really Elite!!!
He is a good coach-not elite.
His offense is too predictable and last years NCG was a poor excuse of a human being, coach, fan, he let all of us, LSU, his team, and himself down!!!
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Well put!
It makes me sick to my stomach to see how easily some here latch onto any excuse that hits the board. From that point on, it's the reason we lost! Everybody is against us! its not fair! Like cattle being herded to the feeding trough.
Use your god given brains! SEC schedules east vary from year to year for all of us. In 2010 and 2011 we had Vandy and Tenn followed by Kentucky and Tenn.
Now because someone else has them and we have tougher opponents: "It's a conspiracy created by the evil Satan and his disciples in the SEC HQ!"
My god! How ignorant are some of you?
This post was edited on 12/15/12 at 7:55 am
Posted on 12/15/12 at 8:01 am to Mayhawman
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Ah, but you're in the blame game to discredit LSU staff. Died, career injury, grades, drugs or personal is all the same to me.
Let's see:
1. Died bc of a freak accident
2. Kicked off because he was a horrible recruit from the beginning
Which of those absolves the LSU staff and which does not?
Posted on 12/15/12 at 8:51 am to That LSU Guy
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You don't follow recruiting, do you? Saban didn't exactly leave LSU as loaded as you think when he left.
The 2006 team is thought by many to be the most talented team ever at LSU.......2005 and 2007 teams were pretty loaded as well.
Posted on 12/15/12 at 8:55 am to theunknownknight
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he was KICKED OFF THE TEAM because he was a horrible recruit.
do you have any idea what the LSU fanbase would have done to Miles had he not recruited the #1 recruit in the country in his own backyard? so don't be stupid...hindsight is 20/20
Posted on 12/15/12 at 9:06 am to Dubaitiger
quote:
He is a good coach-not elite.
false...he's elite
Posted on 12/15/12 at 9:21 am to Choctaw
To continue comparing any coach to Saban is unfair to said coach. Possibly 3 out of the last 4 BCS championships, as well as leading another SEC program to a BCS title, and comparisons are still being made?? Really? Love him or hate him, there is no comparison. That is elite. Meyer is very good. Everyone else falls in the good category and below. I keep hearing bout Bama "benefits" (easy schedule, favorable calls), well Saban apparently has been able to take clear advantage of it like no Bama coach in recent history. Make comparisons to Mack Brown and Miles. That is more realistic in my view, and not unflattering at all. Or Phil Fulmer. A lot on this board give these coaches grief but I think that is who Miles consider most favorably to at this point. Good coach who runs a good program. And there is nothing wrong with that. But to make excuses and try to somehow diminish what is occurring East of here is beneath our fan base. Gotta face the facts.
Posted on 12/15/12 at 9:26 am to DIGGY
how did you type all that with both your hands full of Sabans dick? that's impressive.
Posted on 12/15/12 at 9:37 am to Tiger2763
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Use your god given brains! SEC schedules east vary from year to year for all of us.
You are the ignorant one here.
The 2012 and 2013 schedules are bridge schedules which have no relationship to past or future schedule rotations, but by all means keep running your mouth LINK.
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