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re: LSU doubling down on McMahon, saying NIL key to future.

Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:51 pm to
Posted by HangingWithMrCooper
The Bay Area
Member since Aug 2017
184 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:51 pm to
I really don’t get the commitment to more NIL at this point. Does that mean McMahon is going to fill out a whole new roster next year? we’ve already got the high school guys signed. You’re either going to be paying more for guys that are about to go 4-14 at best in conference or you have to completely overhaul the roster, or possibly overpay for guys who make you marginally better. I’ve listen to McMahon talk about how he wants to build this program and this AD is basically painting him into a corner he doesn’t want to be in. They’ve got a lot of balls to put out this narrative right now.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8880 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:52 pm to
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because our guards are the worst, or near the worst, in the league. We need major upgrade there. Guard play is critical in the NCAA


Agreed. This has been a glaring omission for three years now. What makes you think he can fix it? He has had money, look at the recruiting class. He got the best transfer point guard in the nation last year, did nothing with that player. His reputation was supposed to be developing three star guards into first round draft picks. What objective data makes you believe that he is going to improve in year four?
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42777 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:52 pm to
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Mandtgr47
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LOL. If you knew my education level, you would be embarrassed.
Aren't you the dude that has completely run away from my IQ challenge?

Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
14760 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:53 pm to
I am okay with this.
Let him have a shot with real NIL money.
No one can win when we are at the bottom of the conference in NIL spending.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32054 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:56 pm to
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Let him have a shot with real NIL money


Where is this “real NIL money” suddenly coming from that hasn’t existed in 3 years? Will there be a Labor Day telethon?
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9760 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:57 pm to
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I am okay with this.

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geauxpurple

Mediocrity extraordinaire!
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58982 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:58 pm to
Two top 15 classes to be a basement dweller. A top 5 SEC class this year and he’s 2-10. Stop it
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8880 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:59 pm to
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LOL. If you knew my education level, you would be embarrassed


I’ve seen enough of your posts, if you have any education, you should be embarrassed.
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
6711 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:07 pm to
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Let him have a shot with real NIL money. No one can win when we are at the bottom of the conference in NIL spending.


There is too much talent on this team to be 2-10 in conference. I’m not saying that we need to be Duke level but Sears, V. Miller, R. Miller, Collins, Chest and Carter are guys who could get meaningful minutes for most programs in the country. There is not a lack of talent on this team.

Even if you give McMahon more $, who is to say he would be able to close with all of the intended targets? His fan club on here loves to say that he’s great at high school recruiting yet he missed out on an elite prospect that is from only 80 miles away.

The Mickey Loomis attitude of Woodward is frustrating and rather insulting of the intelligence of the fanbase. If I were a season ticket holder, there’s no way in hell I would renew. The product has been and will continue to be subpar under this current leadership.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
31247 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:12 pm to
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Listen, I get whey your saying

but if there is a direct relationship between NIL and Success, and there appears to be one, I would try that route first before firing the coach



But there isn't one. He isn't a good coach.

You can find good players and coach them up to a least be 500 in the league.
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
6709 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:14 pm to
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Two top 15 classes to be a basement dweller. A top 5 SEC class this year and he’s 2-10. Stop it


This is what I’m trying to figure out. He signed a top 5 SEC class and still isn’t close to being competitive. What does increasing the NIL budget do?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58982 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:16 pm to
It does nothing and likely won’t increase by any significant amount. It’s a PR stunt, damage control. I mean we have a top 5 national recruit right in our backyard coming out next season. If we were “increasing our NIL to attract elite players” wouldn’t he be the one guy you’re going get? But no, he’s going to Houston
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 7:18 pm
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
9622 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:18 pm to
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Told everyone this yesterday that the word was MM was coming back and that NIL will be much more prevalent. I think this was the best move possible. If we can keep what we have, and then add a couple of elite guards (especially a PG) we could be really good


Except he is not a good coach...

You could give this jackass the Pelicans roster and the would still be at the bottom of the SEC
Posted by EscambiaTiger
Pensacola
Member since Dec 2024
38 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:19 pm to
I don’t agree with this decision at all. It makes me sick.

But I’m going to go with a business analogy that I’ve followed for years. If you give your employees everything they can to be successful and they aren’t, that’s on them. CMM won’t be able to say, LSU hindered my ability to be successful, and LSU will be able to say, we gave you everything you needed to be successful and you weren’t.

Still, it sucks knowing we’re likely looking at another lost season.
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
16198 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:29 pm to
Have we not seen enough??!! Has he not already proven he’s an incompetent coach? What more do we need to see? More NIL money won’t change that I’m afraid. This is really just delaying the inevitable, and hurting the program further.
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
6711 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:31 pm to
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If we were “increasing our NIL to attract elite players” wouldn’t he be the one guy you’re going get? But no, he’s going to Houston


The McMen never address this either. Cenac knows that Kelvin Sampson is a winner with real accomplishments in the profession and he knows that Sampson will develop him.

McMahon doesn’t make the tournament and runs off and/or doesn’t seem to play certain players.

Tough pill to swallow as an LSU fan but if I were Cenac, I would’ve made the same decision ten out of ten times.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42777 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:40 pm to
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But I’m going to go with a business analogy that I’ve followed for years. If you give your employees everything they can to be successful and they aren’t, that’s on them. CMM won’t be able to say, LSU hindered my ability to be successful, and LSU will be able to say, we gave you everything you needed to be successful and you weren’t.

Still, it sucks knowing we’re likely looking at another lost season.
I don't have any issue with your thought at all. Most leaders are going to succeed based on their subordinates performance and setting them up in their best position to succeed.

That said, why all of a sudden now, in the last few days do we get this narrative dropping to media outlets? Why didn't you support him before? CoachMc didn't know the portal existed before, that seems silly from the amount of transfers we've had.

Again, this is low hanging fruit for the rubes to swallow.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
111806 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:45 pm to
I thought "if we throw enough money at it maybe we'll win something" was A&Ms strategy
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58982 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:51 pm to
And he’s not the only one that’s going to say no. We’re not going to pay as much as the blue bloods so how are we getting their recruits? This story is a big shiny hook for saps.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
6968 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:59 pm to
He’s still gone after the season.

NIL is about promoting. McMahon does not promote well.
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 8:01 pm
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