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JudgeHolden
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LSU Center Had Best Blocking Grade In The Country?

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Center Garrett Dellinger had two bad snaps (one that killed a drive), but Pro Football Focus also gave him the top blocking score of any center in the country.


Per Brody Miller of The Athletic

Why aren’t we talking about that?


Penrod
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re: LSU Center Had Best Blocking Grade In The Country?
That’s great to hear. If he fixes those snaps he might anchor a great line next season with Campbell, Bradford, Fitzgerald West, and Emery Jones


Madking
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re: LSU Center Had Best Blocking Grade In The Country?
And JD held the ball longer than any QB in the SEC so this excuse that he had zero time to throw is breaking apart as the facts start to come out.


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JudgeHolden
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re: LSU Center Had Best Blocking Grade In The Country?
The more you know . . . .


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Hondo Blacksheep
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re: LSU Center Had Best Blocking Grade In The Country?
I wouldn't have guessed that, I guess bc what stands out in my memory is the wild snap, but good for him and us. We need improvement anywhere we can get it and that's really impressive by Dellinger.


JudgeHolden
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re: LSU Center Had Best Blocking Grade In The Country?
SKY

FALLING [NOT FALLING]

The more I read by smart football people, the more bright spots I see. We have problems. It’s not awful, though.


Beessnax
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It’s not awful, though


It's not. For whatever reason there was a mistake amplifier operating against us. Minor correctable issues that most people wouldn't have noticed turned into missed tackles, blocked kicks and first downs for FSU.


Sterling Archer
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re: LSU Center Had Best Blocking Grade In The Country?
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And JD held the ball longer than any QB in the SEC so this excuse that he had zero time to throw is breaking apart as the facts start to come out.


There’s literally a three page thread on the first page still titled “ Offensive Line PFF Grades”. Go check out the rest of the grades and tell me if you think the excuse is still “breaking apart” - LINK
It’s like you forgot there are 4 other guys that have to protect the QB

Also, we had long slow developing route concepts; hence some of the ball holding waiting for guys to get open. There’s no doubt that he wasn’t perfect but this loss wasn’t on him.
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RUFshreve
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re: LSU Center Had Best Blocking Grade In The Country?
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And JD held the ball longer than any QB in the SEC so this excuse that he had zero time to throw is breaking apart as the facts start to come out.


I've certainly given JD his fair share of criticism for his performance Saturday, but that's one stat or metric that I'd say falls more on the coaches than JD.

Whether it was Denbrock or Kelly, the play calls for the first 3 quarters were long developing routes that didn't give him much of a chance to get it out quickly and get in a rhythm.

I hope the end of the game has them change their strategy and go more up tempo from the start of the game, going forward. They weren't doing JD or the offensive line any favors.


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im4LSU
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re: LSU Center Had Best Blocking Grade In The Country?
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And JD held the ball longer than any QB in the SEC so this excuse that he had zero time to throw is breaking apart as the facts start to come out.



Not sure this translates the way you want it to. JD is still holding the ball while he is scrambling after the line has collapsed.


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StatMaster
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re: LSU Center Had Best Blocking Grade In The Country?
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For whatever reason there was a mistake amplifier operating against us. Minor correctable issues that most people wouldn't have noticed turned into missed tackles, blocked kicks and first downs for FSU.
I think this game is very different had we had a “warmup” game to iron out some of those issues prior to playing FSU.


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LSUDAN1
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re: LSU Center Had Best Blocking Grade In The Country?
Did OL plqy great: No
Did they play decent: yes

There were pockets and JD would rather run.


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re: LSU Center Had Best Blocking Grade In The Country?
The true freshman LT gave up a sack but you could see as the game went along he got more comfortable. If he continues to improve, he has a chance to leave as one of the best.


Mudminnow
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re: LSU Center Had Best Blocking Grade In The Country?
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And JD held the ball longer than any QB in the SEC so this excuse that he had zero time to throw is breaking apart as the facts start to come out.



Because Cam Cameron 2.0 thought it would be good to have very slow and long developing plays. Most offenses dot do that now.


lsuson
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re: LSU Center Had Best Blocking Grade In The Country?
I’ll cringe if Wire starts this week


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JudgeHolden
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re: LSU Center Had Best Blocking Grade In The Country?
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Because Cam Cameron 2.0 thought it would be good to have very slow and long developing plays. Most offenses dot do that now.


It’s not true. You should read something by real football people.


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lowhound
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re: LSU Center Had Best Blocking Grade In The Country?
Snapping and blocking is one thing, calling out protection changes and rotations is another. I think he missed on some of the rotation calls.


mdomingue
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re: LSU Center Had Best Blocking Grade In The Country?
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And JD held the ball longer than any QB in the SEC so this excuse that he had zero time to throw is breaking apart


Well, does that also break apart the criticism that he was 1 read then run?

Maybe the issue was slow developing plays, maybe not reading the hot routes or safety valves, maybe lack of hot routes or safe outlet routes(sorry if my terminology is off). I will say that I did see him not throw to open backs or TEs on what looked like a safe outlet just passed the LOS a few times but he usually picked up yards with his running and maybe it balanced out.

I think he did reasonable well but there is definite room for improvement, not sure that Nuss would have performed any better.


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SlowFlowPro
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re: LSU Center Had Best Blocking Grade In The Country?
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And JD held the ball longer than any QB in the SEC so this excuse that he had zero time to throw is breaking apart as the facts start to come out.

Running/mobile QBs always hold the ball longer



Look at the right side of the graph. You got: Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson, Hurts, Winston (skeaky runner), Fields, Baker, Allen, Heineke, etc.


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Bring Da Wood
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re: LSU Center Had Best Blocking Grade In The Country?
Daniels has to recognize the outside blitz and check out of those downfield passes. Either call a hot route or check into an inside run. It’s not all on the center when we have 5 to block 6. Also Wire got abused at RT. I’d be interested to see our Tackles grades.


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