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re: LSU and Joe Brady agree to deal!!

Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:25 am to
Posted by cra_cra
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:25 am to
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if SE wants to stick around he's got a spot but i have argued for months this is a transition plan that SE wants

i doubt IF there is a "co" scenario it goes past 2020

SE never wanted to be our OC and is helping train Brady but he can do it as "TEs coach" or whatever title we give him



When people use the terms "whatever" etc, it shows a lack of real appreciation for the job SE has done at LSU, IMO. I use the word "WANT" because I WANT SE coaching at LSU for as long as he possibly can, and am certainly supportive of him transitioning out or keeping the OC role if he so chooses. He's earned every bit of it.

I mean, do you realize the steal we have for him at $800k? He deserves more than that, especially if he's supportive of Brady making close to 2 million.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:25 am to
Been listening to 104.5 for the past 10 minutes. They are just jabbering.

Nothing about Brady. Nothing about a deal.

If they had the hottest story in the SEC they talk about? Right?
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 9:28 am
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6687 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:25 am to
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Ensminger calls a lot of plays. Ensminger is still captaining the ship.

Brady installed a large portion of the offense, but he has absolutely no experience coordinating. Learning from Ensminger has been vital to his development.

Honestly, it was a perfect situation for Brady. A lot more goes into being a major coordinator than just calling plays.


Guy, have you watched Ensminger's offenses? Do you really, honestly believe that these plays are coming from him?

It doesn't matter if Brady had experience calling plays. The guy studies the game, knows what plays to draw up to attack defenses, and that is all you need to call plays. He's a rare breed. But those guys do exist. Being old and having a bunch of previous jobs is not a prerequisite to being a genius.

If I'm wrong, then how do you explain the incredible turnaround? You think Steve just suddenly figured it out? No, I'm sorry, but that's like calling Doug Marronne a genius when he was under Payton. The results tell the whole story of what he was with Payton, and without him, and the same goes for Ensminger before Brady and after.
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 9:28 am
Posted by Iam_PrinceAkeem
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2011
3354 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:26 am to
Rich Youngin
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:26 am to
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it shows a lack of real appreciation for the job SE has done at LSU, IMO


Your opinion is wrong. I've seen no one not appreciate what SE has done for LSU. But the offense is what it is because of Brady. Denying that is just... I don't even know what it is. It's silly.
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 9:27 am
Posted by LSUDadBod
Member since Sep 2018
4 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:27 am to
Give the man whatever he wants
Posted by cj2002
louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:28 am to
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He certainly earned it in every way possible.

Now let's stop calling him "passing game coordinator". It's insulting to him and our collective intelligence to pretend he isn't calling plays. At least name him co-offensive coordinator, so that Ensminger can keep his weird feel goo


Prove that Brady calling plays alone would be just as successful as what we see now.

I would never take that kind of chance.

Keep SE and JB together as long as possible and when Brady is on his own we should not miss a beat.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
175282 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:28 am to
Ensminger and Brady... only ego would destroy this duo. They are both mutually benefitting from the other.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32425 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:29 am to
Looking at his twitter I knew he wasn’t going anywhere. Dude loves LSU
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:29 am to
So how long after the season ends before SE resigns and Brady is the new OC?

If we win the NC is say a week, if we don’t less than 48hrs
Posted by kennymorgan
Bella Vista, AR
Member since Dec 2005
4728 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:30 am to
I wonder if getting JB tied down so quickly is to get bargaining position for 2020 and 2021 QB recruits, as well as the protecting LSU from poachers.


I like the speed and decisiveness of the deal SW moved with lighting speed. JA would be negotiating 20 cents.
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
19366 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:32 am to
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6687 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:32 am to
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Prove that Brady calling plays alone would be just as successful as what we see now.

I would never take that kind of chance.

Keep SE and JB together as long as possible and when Brady is on his own we should not miss a beat.




I don't have to prove anything, man! Just look at Ensminger's whole history, and then look at this year. I can't believe some of you are arguing with me over this. This is unbelievable. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone.

But did you read the end of my post? I didn't EVEN SAY to get rid of Ensminger. I said quit calling Joe the passing game coordinator and at least name him co-offensive coordinator so that Ensminger can KEEP his feel good role.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66518 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:33 am to
Better make it retroactive to this season too
Posted by cra_cra
Member since Nov 2016
1743 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:34 am to
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And you are are completely ignorant if you believe any of that nonsense.

I'm sure Ensminger is a nice guy. But he's a dinosaur when it comes to calling plays. You don't go from being a guy who can't score a point against Alabama one year, to scoring 46 the next year, with THE SAME PLAYERS!

Please don't insult me with your rah rah speech about nothing, again. You are blatantly denying facts.


Haha...I'm sorry. Facts. Right.

Did Brady call plays with the Saints? Or was he an offensive assistant?
How many years has Brady coached a position?
How many years removed is Brady from a GA?
Has Brady ever, ever, called a single play or coached offense before this year?
Show me where Brady called plays and designed the offense with any team?

We could go on.

This isn't to bash Brady, but rather to help you understand that it takes experience to implement and system and make it work. so you think Brady just magically did this on his own?

Brady is full of great ideas. He might be an offensive genius. But SE has been there to help it all work, and help take the ideas and mold it into something that can work for the entire team. He is the perfect Mentor and Captain to help bring such a young mind forward.

I'm sorry if you can't see this.
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 9:37 am
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6687 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:35 am to
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Weird, none have been posted.



LSU's offense this year... vs 20 plus years of a track record of calling plays for Ensminger.

THOSE are the facts. How can you be so incredibly ignorant?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88575 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:36 am to
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I'm sorry if you can't see this.


Is this where we say we're sorry you can't see the difference from without Joe Brady last year to with Joe Brady this year?
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
9824 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:36 am to
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
45964 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:37 am to
I know on whiskey and wine after the game Saturday night, Culotta mentioned they had a deal in place that was agreed upon and would be announced at the end of the year. IIRC, it would be worth somewhere around $1.8/mil per year and would make him the Co-OC. I guess with how Saturday played out, they decided to go ahead and bump it up instead of waiting until the end of the year.

I wonder if it also would change the Co-OC title and go ahead and make him the outright OC at the end of the season and let Ensminger go back to being the TE coach with maybe some kind of other title as well.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107403 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:38 am to
Part of the expectation in Brady now should be to develop his future replacement. They know within 2 or 3 years he will get a great HC offer at a legit school or NFL job. They need to emphasize him finding a young guy and mentoring him to hand the keys to.
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