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re: Let's revisit Breaux's fair/foul ball in the 9th

Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:37 am to
Posted by StadiumDormRat'72
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:37 am to
Let's just call it a make-up call, since the tying run was obviously out at the plate...

None of y'all griping 'bout THAT call, though.
Posted by LSUEEAlum
Member since Oct 2013
832 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Let's revisit Breaux's fair/foul ball in the 9th
my question - how can you award two bases?
does that allow three bases for another runner, who is really fast




Buddy was the runner. Lol. Probably one of the fastes players in college baseball. But I was thinking the samething. That's totally a judgement call. I mean honestly buddy might have made it to third but how can you determine that without a doubt. To me in that situation the runner should get first base and that's it.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
31025 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:38 am to
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Why not let him run for Beau the inning before if he planned on using Breaux????

Probably because Beau wasn't on base.
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
14687 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:38 am to
Unreal! Why did Sullivan pull JJ Schwarz?

Why is this a point of discussion this morning? LSU, as a whole had a sloppy defensive game late. Kramer, Breaux, Diechman, and even Stallings gave Florida life.

If Breaux catches that ball, none of this is talked about. I'm not a huge CPM fan but I can't criticize him inserting Breaux into the game when he did as he also pulled a rabbit out of his arse in the 11th and rode Stallings all the way.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 9:40 am
Posted by SJS101
Member since Oct 2007
2858 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:41 am to
Catch the damn ball indeed. But that ball was clearly tailing foul pretty damn hard coming off the left handed batter. If you look at just where the ball is on a still frame or short replay and don't take into account the severe tailing motion that can be seen from the outfield camera angle, it impossible to say it would have DEFINITELY been fair. It could just as easily landed foul. Considering the way it played out, I would have like to see where it truly would have landed had a slower fielder not gotten his glove on it
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:41 am to
he left the ground and landed in foul territory and the ball was clearly foul.
Posted by el gato
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2483 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:42 am to
The ball was in fair territory when it touched Breaux' glove. Doesn't matter where it might have landed or what happened after it touched the glove.
Posted by packardtrucklines
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:42 am to
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This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 9:54 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:43 am to
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If Marineri Sauce didn't pull Beau that's an out!!!
Just stick to editing your posts on the Ticket Exchange Board and save yourself some embarrassment from making stupid statements about LSU baseball on this board.

Beau would have been 5 yards away from the ball when it hit the ground if he had still been in the game.

Mainieri's move to put a faster outfielder in the game was a smart coaching move but the player didn't make the play that he normally makes 95 times out of 100.
Posted by AFtigerFan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
3735 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:44 am to
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The ball was in fair territory when it touched Breaux' glove. Doesn't matter where it might have landed or what happened after it touched the glove.



Exactly this. And for those that don't think it looked fair, skip to the 3:00 mark of this video clip where it is slowed down. It is clearly fair, and the umps got it right.

LINK
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 9:47 am
Posted by packardtrucklines
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:50 am to
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This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 9:52 am
Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:51 am to
There was a third angle which they only showed for a second on tv, and it was from the left field camera behind the play. From that angle it looked foul for sure. The problem with the overrule is that in all three camera angles it is clear that the umpire in perfect position, paying attention, looking down the line directly at the play to make that call. The camera angles were not nearly as good as the umpire's view. I can't tell conclusively, so it should have been the umpire's call.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:52 am to
What is your banned screen name??
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:53 am to
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Why not let him run for Beau the inning before if he planned on using Breaux????

Probably because Beau wasn't on base.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:56 am to
I don't get clearly fair in both clips at all. As I said in my second post pay attention to the vertical line where he touches it and where his foot lands. You have to find some sort of visual landmark to gage where the ball is relative to the line.

I mean the umpire was all over it and called it foul. I don't see anything clear enough to overturn when the camera is 20+ degrees off the line in both clips.
Posted by crownNbull
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Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:58 am to
Beau wouldn't have gotten to that ball but that may have been a good thing. The ball was tailing towards foul territory. It's possible that ball lands foul if Breaux doesn't touch it.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:59 am to



it is clearly a few feet fair, mate
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:01 am to
I know the fair or foul rules. I'm using his body in the video to garner some sort of depth perception and position of the ball relative to the foul line when he touched it.

Even in the second clip it looks obvious that the ball is touched to the "left" of where his right foot lands, and that foot is clearly foul.
Posted by AFtigerFan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
3735 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:02 am to
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Lester Earl


There is no way someone can seriously argue otherwise after seeing the screen capture. It's time for people to take off their purple and gold glasses and just enjoy the win.
Posted by AFtigerFan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
3735 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:03 am to
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Even in the second clip it looks obvious that the ball is touched to the "left" of where his right foot lands, and that foot is clearly foul.


I have no idea what you are seeing, but your mind is playing tricks on you.
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