re: Les Miles never ceases to amaze me

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depends on the circumstances involved...i say Saban building a national championship level program after the decade of the 90's is more impressive. Lets compare hardware...both have 2 sec titles and 1 national championship. Now what is more impressive doing that in 5 years taking over a mediocre program or doing it over 10 years taking over a team that won a national title a few years earlier?

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If Saban had stuck around for a decade we could have this discussion. Les had the longest period of sustained success in LSU history. It's not really a debate, if we're being honest. This is in no way attempting to downplay the role Saban played in resurrecting and building LSU football into a power.

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One might ask the question: Why do you feel the need to consistently shite on Miles

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Why do you feel the need to constantly prop him up? His ability to coach was obviously deteriorating... while he had the best run in LSU history, his stubborness and refusing to adapt caused the program to take a step back his last couple of years; he deserves criticism for those seasons just as much as praise when he was at his best.

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How does denigrating him raise you up? How does this in any way make you better?... I hope your ego is getting the expected boost.

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One might ask you the same thing about every post you've ever made to anyone on this board. You never take the time to praise anything good about LSU, Miles included. You only talk shite to those who don't. Never one positive thing is ever posted by you- And you think that makes you some sort of righteous, white-knighting superfan. You're miserable.

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Les had the longest period of sustained success in LSU history. It's not really a debate, if we're being honest.

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Good post and it's weird many seem to put Miles below Hallman.
After '04 it would've been easy for the program to tank like many others have, and fans should be happy for the Miles period.
Although in place for only last 25yrs or so, he is the only coach to place LSU football in 2 Nat Champ contests, besides the longest success period.
For all the shite he gets about the offenses under him, he owns the LSU top 4 spots in Scoring Offense (IIRC all under different OCs), and probably a lot of other LSU historical stats I don't have the time to waste on deaf ears about.

there is no way anyone can rationally deny that Les Miles not only maintained The level of success established by Saban, but may have raised the bar further for what we expect of a head coach.

Les Miles gave LSU personality and character that was interesting to a national audience. All the espn car wash segments, and clips of les's pressers, and highlights of his in-game antics only enhanced LSU's brand.

At media days, reporters were lining up for LSU not only because it is regularly a national power, but because no one ever knew what Les might say.

Les also presided over a team that has given us some of the most memorable moments in LSU history.

You can knock his win percentage, his stubbornness, even his frustratingly bizarre coach speak. But you cannot deny that he enhanced LSU's brand just as much if not more than Saban.

Much can be said about wins and losses, but more can be said about an invaluable public brand. Which is one of the things most frustrating about the Florida debacle. Our administration allowed LSU's image to be tarnished. But I digress....

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My favorite part of this post is when you were talking out of your arse and passing it off as a fact

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That was an opinion dumbass...or couldn't you discern that? Do I need to preface every statement with "this is only my opinion" for you simpletons?

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One might ask you the same thing about every post you've ever made to anyone on this board. You never take the time to praise anything good about LSU, Miles included. You only talk shite to those who don't. Never one positive thing is ever posted by you- And you think that makes you some sort of righteous, white-knighting superfan. You're miserable.

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Yeah, I honestly don't believe I've ever seen him espouse an actual opinion or join in a discussion in any meaningful way. He basically just self-importantly rips into anyone that doesn't heap unadulterated praise on Miles and goes on his way.

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He had the BEST TEAM IN THE NATION in 2011 and got demolished because of coaching.

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Objectively, Bama was every bit as good, but shouldn't have had a second chance. That left the door open for a very ggod defensive coach to gameplan and play the huge revenge card with his players.
LSU was outplayed more than outcoached in that NC game, as in "If the battles can't be won, the war will be lost".

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With the recruiting classes LSU has had we should have been better than 7-4 in bowl games w/2 titles.

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From 2005-2015 there are 3 programs that can match the sustained success of lsu.
During his tenure no program beat more ranked teams than lsu.
No program was ranked in the top 25 more weeks.

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Saban set the bar.

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Holy shite.
2000- 4 losses
2001- 3 losses
2002- 5 losses
2003-1 loss
2004- 3 losses

Please explain how that is setting a bar. If that's bar setting then the last 5 years of miles surpassed that bar.

Saban started the rise but Miles set the bar from 2005-2012.i agree saban showed everyone what lsu could be with the right coach.

14 pages for this shite?

Still?

Really?

And Good God Rick. Miles will survive if you don't eKnight for him. You realize that, right?