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re: Les Miles never ceases to amaze me
Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:05 am to Gray Tiger
Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:05 am to Gray Tiger
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But what the Hell, let's fire Orgeron and hire Snyder
Did I say that...of course not. I'm only making a point about age dumbass.....go back to your bingo game in the cafeteria geezer. Im sure the other geriatrics down there haven't grown tired of of your glorious tales of yore about Miles conquests!
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Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:05 am to Rickdaddy4188
What a blowhard...
Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:08 am to Rickdaddy4188
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I'm still waiting for all these P5 programs that have hired 63 year old coaches in the last decade.
You're simply making excuses for the fact that your boy hasn't been hired yet and prolly won't be....at least not by any program with a storied and winning tradition.
Sorry that has lead to jimmy-rustling for u.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:09 am to Dallasgrowl
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What a blowhard...
He's got one play...Miles stats and thats it. Its old and tired...and irrelevant at this point anyway.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:10 am to tigerpawl
True, you usually don't hire a coach at 63, cause GOOD Coaches don't get FIRED at 63 !!!!! If Bobby Bowden would have been let go at 63, he would have had a job in 5 Minutes!!!! Thanks to LSU for dishing out the most money in School HISTORY for the best Asst's in the Country, cause Miles was in way over his head. And it's not what he won at LSU it's what he left on the table.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:13 am to Gray Tiger
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Do you actually think that Spurrier is in demand?
We would have hired him here in a millisec if he'd been interested in the job you silly twit.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:18 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Then list all these p5 programs that have hired a 63 year old coach in the last decade
You keep ignoring the fact that a lot of coaches over 60 may not WANT to coach anymore...or may not want to coach at a particular school that has a vacancy. A coach has to be actively seeking a job to get one. Spurrier's made it crystal clear he doesnt want to coach anymore...but do you think for minute if he came out of retirement some p5 program wouldn't snatch him up at first chance if they had a coaching vacancy?
If your answer is no....then you're a fking idiot.
Age is a relative thing...its all about your rep and pedigree.
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 8:20 am
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:47 am to Damone
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He had some success, but he left the football program in worse shape than when he inherited it from Saban.
You have no idea what youre talking about.
Saban's tenure= 2 10 win seasons and 2 top 16 finishes
Miles last 5 years at lsu= 4 10 win seasons( yes im counting mcneese) and 4 top 16 finishes
Saban's tenure= 16 losses and 12 conf losses
Miles last 5 years =15 losses and 12 conf losses
Please explain how more losses,less 10 win seasons and less top 16 finishes equals a better program.
Saban also left lsu with a shite class in 2004. He had stopped recruiting so much that lsu signed 13 players in 2005 class.
Only someone that doesnt use facts would say the program is worse off than what Miles inherited.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:50 am to Rickdaddy4188
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the program is worse off than what Miles inherited.
We're certainly not worse off Rick...but we're not riding high either. Les's overstay has caused us to take a step or two back.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:56 am to RedTigerRulz
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You keep ignoring the fact that a lot of coaches over 60 may not WANT to coach anymore.
List all the 63 year old coaches getting offers from major programs.
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A coach has to be actively seeking a job to get one. Spurrier's made it crystal clear he doesnt want to coach anymore...but do you think for minute if he came out of retirement some p5 program wouldn't snatch him up at first chance if they had a coaching vacancy?
Lol. Youre using your opinion and acting like its a fact. For the last time,show me all these 63 year old coaches getting offers from major programs in the last decade and I'll stop using his age as a reason for not getting offers. There are 2 coaches in all of cfb that are older than Miles.
The fact that you think agree doesnt matter tells me all i need to know about your bias.
You act like there were soooooo many p5 opening in cfb and no one selected miles. Lane kiffen was a sought after HC after his bama tenure and he took FAULK job.
Miles resume
Most successful tenure ever at top 15 alltime program
Shown he can take a bad program and make them respectable
Been more successful than his predecessor at every stop
#7 win %in sec history
#1 ooc win %in lsu and sec history
Won a national title
Played in 2 national title game
You dont understand the retread nature of cfb coaching if you think Miles wouldnt be sought after if he were 50-55 years old. How many jobs did Charlie Weis get after notre dame?
Whether you like it or not 63 year old head coaches dont get offers from major programs.
Of course someone like Saban could get offers but no one is denying that GOAT status HC get offers from major programs. Miles isnt that.
I'm not saying his age is the only reason he didnt get hired at a major program but it's a pretty huge reason why. His refusal to change his offense is also a big reason. He has to go to a program thats ok running a program style offense.
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 10:01 am
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:59 am to RedTigerRulz
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We're certainly not worse off Rick...but we're not riding high either. Les's overstay has caused us to take a step or two back.
Agreed buddy. Shouldve fired him after 2015 I'll never forgive FKING for robbing us fans of what couldve been a special 2016 season.
Look I've never said miles was a great coach.at his best I put him around 12-15 best coach in cfb. I've repeatedly admitted he was an elite recruiter and great motivator and average at best game day coach.
But I also realize that their are about 4-5 coaches that are both elite recruiters and elite game day coaches. Thats what makes them the best coaches in cfb.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:14 am to Gray Tiger
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Saying "could have" is pretty damned un-provable.
Are you still pushing the view that the only reason why Coach Miles isn't working is because of his AGE?
That is pure speculation! Pure speculation that you are pushing and endorsing as UNALTERABLE TRUTH. That's madness. Not only madness, but, totally unpersuasive.
There's evidence out there that cuts against your view on this issue, but, it remains a speculative proposition, unless you are a Mind Reader that has access to the inner thoughts of every AD that didn't hire Coach Miles.
PS This post is also for RickDaddy, who is also pushing this speculative bit of Mind Reading as Unalterable Absolute Truth. Go sell crazy somewhere else -- we are all stocked up here.
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 10:16 am
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:29 am to EyeOfTheTiger14
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“I’m probably a better coach today than I was when I left LSU, and I was certainly a better coach in my last years at LSU than I was in my first years
I interpret that to mean that he views being a good coach as being a good man and that his life experiences have in some way built him into a better man today than he was when he was younger. Losing his job at LSU could be expected to be a substantial character-forming experience.
I've never been a fan of his as LSU coach, but it wouldn't surprise me if the above reflected his thinking, and I would have a hard time disagreeing with the idea that a better man is a better coach, all other things being equal.
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 10:34 am
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:52 am to uway
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I interpret that to mean that he views being a good coach as being a good man and that his life experiences have in some way built him into a better man today than he was when he was younger. Losing his job at LSU could be expected to be a substantial character-forming experience.
I've never been a fan of his as LSU coach, but it wouldn't surprise me if the above reflected his thinking, and I would have a hard time disagreeing with the idea that a better man is a better coach, all other things being equal.
Well now if you're going to use logic and deductive reasoning.....I guess I can buy this.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:15 am to uway
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I interpret that to mean that he views being a good coach as being a good man and that his life experiences have in some way built him into a better man today than he was when he was younger. Losing his job at LSU could be expected to be a substantial character-forming experience.
I've never been a fan of his as LSU coach, but it wouldn't surprise me if the above reflected his thinking, and I would have a hard time disagreeing with the idea that a better man is a better coach, all other things being equal.
Anyone that has been through as tough of a situation as Miles has can come out of the other end with new perspective. Sometimes we just can't get out of our own way while we are in it, but with reflection, we are able to make positive change from the ordeal.
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 11:16 am
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:38 am to RedTigerRulz
RTR you are seriously demented.
First you knight for Snyder, (202-105-1) then you propose that Spurrier, who quit in mid season, as a possible replacement for Les miles?
That is doubling down on stupid.
Snyder? Spurrier? Who is next in your little fantasy universe? Charlie Weis?
Oh oh I know.........what about Mike Price?
Geeeez man you are a priceless resource. So few on this site offer such an obscured view into the brain of a fool.
We are forever in your debt.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:41 am to Gray Tiger
What's the term on your ball-shining contract with Les? Kind of figured it'd expire when he was no longer LSU's coach. Hope you're being duly compensated for your work.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:54 am to lsu2006
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What's the term on your ball-shining contract with Les? Kind of figured it'd expire when he was no longer LSU's coach. Hope you're being duly compensated for your work.
WOOO what a burn!!
Real 9th grade level. Kudos to you.
One might ask the question: Why do you feel the need to consistently shite on Miles? How does denigrating him raise you up? How does this in any way make you better? Kind of figured that level of hatred would expire when he was no longer LSU's coach. I hope your ego is getting the expected boost.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:59 am to Rickdaddy4188
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I say Miles had the most successful tenure in lsu history. Its a fact.
depends on the circumstances involved...i say Saban building a national championship level program after the decade of the 90's is more impressive. Lets compare hardware...both have 2 sec titles and 1 national championship. Now what is more impressive doing that in 5 years taking over a mediocre program or doing it over 10 years taking over a team that won a national title a few years earlier?
Posted on 4/7/17 at 12:02 pm to Gray Tiger
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One might ask the question: Why do you feel the need to consistently shite on Miles?
Uh... I don't. I rarely, if ever, even think about Les, let alone make posts about him on here or "shite on him" (whatever the frick that means). He's not our coach anymore in case you missed it.
The real question is why do you still throw a temper tantrum any time someone brings up something about Les that isn't glowing praise? Are you completely incapable of realizing that he, in fact, was not God's gift to coaching?
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